It is pretty much scientifically IMPOSSIBLE to catch covid19 at an OUTDOOR race

the430miler wrote:

Catching covid19 at an outdoor track race or outdoor road race is pretty much impossible because when ppl cough or breath, their germs go straight into the open sky. They are not trapped inside of a building for others to breath.

Indoor races and events are where you will catch covid19 because the pathogens are kept inside of a wall barrier and dont float into trillions of miles of outer space atmosphere.

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I'm assuming your have some peer reviewed scientific data to back up these claims?

While I'd assume the risk is low for small races, having ~10k people crowded together for 15 minutes before a big city marathon would present more than a negligible risk, but you appear to lack a basic understanding of how gravity and an atmosphere work, so I guess I'll just trust you. (hint outer space doesn't have atmosphere and if everything floated off into outer space we wouldn't be able to breathe... so #thanksgravity. Also, a trillion miles is a LONG way.

the430miler wrote:

Also, please tune in this Sunday evening at 7pm for my live Facebook video of my teams progress in San Antonio. I will reveal my coaching secrets

Calendar reminder set. Looking forward to this

Ahead of the Curve wrote:

[quote]the430miler wrote:

Catching covid19 at an outdoor track race or outdoor road race is pretty much impossible because when ppl cough or breath, their germs go straight into the open sky. They are not trapped inside of a building for others to breath.

Indoor races and events are where you will catch covid19 because the pathogens are kept inside of a wall barrier and dont float into trillions of miles of outer space atmosphere.

Also, please tune in this Sunday evening at 7pm for my live Facebook video of my teams progress in San Antonio. I will reveal my coaching secrets

I'm assuming your have some peer reviewed scientific data to back up these claims?

Hell. I don't believe there is any peer reviewed scientific data that shows asymptomatic people can pass the virus to other people who then do get sick. Or that kids with no symptoms can pass it to adults.

Yet we are running around with masks on and keeping school closed

Its not okay wrote:

I'm assuming your have some peer reviewed scientific data to back up these claims?

Hell. I don't believe there is any peer reviewed scientific data that shows asymptomatic people can pass the virus to other people who then do get sick. Or that kids with no symptoms can pass it to adults.

Yet we are running around with masks on and keeping school closed

1) There is plenty of peer reviewed data that shows masks prevent airborne virus spread.

2) I didn't make a claim. the430miler made a claim that catching COVID at an outdoor race was pretty much impossible. The way evidence works is when you make a claim, you are supposed to support it with evidence, not ramblings about how germs float trillions of miles away into outer space.

You'd think it would take evidence to close schools and make us healthy people all wear masks

Its not okay wrote:

Ahead of the Curve wrote:

1) There is plenty of peer reviewed data that shows masks prevent airborne virus spread.

ZERO evidence asymptomatic can make anyone else sick as far as I can find.

2) I didn't make a claim. the430miler made a claim that catching COVID at an outdoor race was pretty much impossible. The way evidence works is when you make a claim, you are supposed to support it with evidence, not ramblings about how germs float trillions of miles away into outer space.

You'd think it would take evidence to close schools and make us healthy people all wear masks

Wearing a mask poses zero risk and is shown to reduce spread of viruses and someone might have symptoms and not know it. You could easily have a temp of 100 in the summer and not realize its due to a viral infection. If everybody wears a mask then sick people who don't realize it are also wearing a mask.

Your logic is like saying only people in car crashes should have to wear seat belts. That's great if there was a way to know who would get into an accident, but we don't.

Same general idea with schools. Sure, if no sick kids went to school everyone is fine, but the day a sick kids goes and starts getting a fever and coughing in the lunchroom around 300 other kids its way too late.

You damn well know if you have a 100’ temp fall spring winter or summer. Virus of any type bringing on a temp, one knows they are nit feeling well.

Wtf do u mean masks pose zero risk?

Viral cells can enter thru the sides and front of the mask.

All a mask does is slightly filter viral cells. They don't filter bacterial cells at all, as bacteria cells are too large.

Ahead of the Curve wrote:

Its not okay wrote:

1) There is plenty of peer reviewed data that shows masks prevent airborne virus spread.

ZERO evidence asymptomatic can make anyone else sick as far as I can find.

2) I didn't make a claim. the430miler made a claim that catching COVID at an outdoor race was pretty much impossible. The way evidence works is when you make a claim, you are supposed to support it with evidence, not ramblings about how germs float trillions of miles away into outer space.

You'd think it would take evidence to close schools and make us healthy people all wear masks

"...someone might have symptoms and not know it. "

Really? That's your argument? Someone might be coughing and/or sneezing and not know it?

Hell, we should all walk around wearing helmets 24/7 in case we trip and can't get our hands out in time or maybe something could fall off of tree or building and hit us in the head.

Better yet, why don 't we never leave the house?

Ahead of the Curve wrote:

While I'd assume the risk is low for small races, having ~10k people crowded together for 15 minutes before a big city marathon would present more than a negligible risk

It's banal, but it bears repeating that there are a lot of activities, even during non-covid times, that present non-negligible risks, like driving a car, drinking alcohol, or going for a run outside. The dispensation for the radical left to operate with impunity in major cities was a unintentional test run for large outdoor gatherings, even if officials won't acknowledge it.

If the reason the virus didn't spread was because the protesters wore masks (a significant number didn't wear one or wore it improperly - I was there for the protests in my city, you probably weren't), then require participants to wear masks in corrals. Otherwise, add more corrals and stagger the start. Chip timing allows you to do that. And close registration to individuals over the age of 65.

the430miler wrote:

Wtf do u mean masks pose zero risk?

Viral cells can enter thru the sides and front of the mask.

All a mask does is slightly filter viral cells. They don't filter bacterial cells at all, as bacteria cells are too large.

Masks don't 'create' risks. They don't eliminate risks either, they moderately reduce risks with zero downside.

They filter some and reduce the distance others are expelled.

Its not okay wrote:

Ahead of the Curve wrote:

You'd think it would take evidence to close schools and make us healthy people all wear masks

"...someone might have symptoms and not know it. "

Really? That's your argument? Someone might be coughing and/or sneezing and not know it?

Hell, we should all walk around wearing helmets 24/7 in case we trip and can't get our hands out in time or maybe something could fall off of tree or building and hit us in the head.

Better yet, why don 't we never leave the house?

The loud mouths non-science-science folk already have everyone not leaving the house. You are right, there is no evidence, actually you are safer to little good evidence or trolls will descend upon you with endless links to articles they have not read but have the word "evidence" in them....then they will claim they are right, call you stupid....my point, there iisno point. Personally, I think masks should worn in public and schools must open. There is nothing out there that indicates schools should remain closed.

Why should healthy people wear masks in public?

Correct. May or may not be easy to catch this cold virus indoors.

Many countries had no requirements for wearing masks outdoors and have a huge success. Some with 15 deaths per 10 million people. The mask outdoor thing is idiotic. Only thing it's doing is helping you breath in recycled co2. Not good. You need fresh air.

What I'm amazed at is threads like these are allowed to persist in perpetuity. Or Fauci's poor pitch, therefore he's not a credible disease expert.

However, within minutes of a thread questioning the federal tactics in Portland this month, you know as well as the sun rises, that thread would be delete post haste, and the poster might get a ban from the mods!

What a place! Letsrun. And wejo wants civility.

Its the liberals that dont want their kids going to school and getting an education from the liberal professors they so adore

I stand by my original statement/fact, even taking into consideration all the huffing and puffing that's done at 5ks

[quote]SL02OTR wrote:

What I'm amazed at is threads like these are allowed to persist in perpetuity.

Imagine threads that don't support your view not being taken down.

Outrageous

another covid/mask troll thread.

how exciting.

+100 Some day the Brojerks will pay a price for supporting hate and disinformation, as will their 'mods'.

SL02OTR wrote:

What I'm amazed at is threads like these are allowed to persist in perpetuity. Or Fauci's poor pitch, therefore he's not a credible disease expert.

However, within minutes of a thread questioning the federal tactics in Portland this month, you know as well as the sun rises, that thread would be delete post haste, and the poster might get a ban from the mods!

What a place! Letsrun. And wejo wants civility.