Bosley, Owen Homestead WI Burgess, Samuel Framingham High School MA Hodge, Lillian Kaizen Pole Vault KY Kennedy, Samira Castilleja School (CC) CA Kovacs, Ferenc Woodberry Forest VA Mihas, Alice Chicago (Latin) IL Ortmans, Charlie The Potomac School VA
Not the best conditions out there, but the team did well. Good season debut for Iverson. It seems Kovacs went out hard and then died. LRC rumor has it that Henz has left the team (he's stepped away from Strava so don't know how much he is still running, if at all).
Princeton appears to have rebounded from whatever illnesses they had from back in early September (had a 24 second scoring spread at Nuttycombe, but no low stick) so HepsXC at Franklin Park will be interesting in 2 weeks.
They have one the most talented teams in the country in terms of high school PRs. Harvard can get athletes in with 1200 on the SAT even though the average is 1550.
The lack of scholarships literally doesn't affect them at all because they give so much financial aid and can give special awards and packages to athletes. Most students on the team pay less at Harvard than they would at a state school w/ a 50-75% scholarship.
For the handful that might have to pay full price, they are happy to because a Harvard degree will guarantee you get insane job offers.
You're mostly right, but there are no "special awards and packages" given to athletes. There just aren't. No merit scholarship in the Ivy league. Great financial aid though.
They have one the most talented teams in the country in terms of high school PRs. Harvard can get athletes in with 1200 on the SAT even though the average is 1550.
The lack of scholarships literally doesn't affect them at all because they give so much financial aid and can give special awards and packages to athletes. Most students on the team pay less at Harvard than they would at a state school w/ a 50-75% scholarship.
For the handful that might have to pay full price, they are happy to because a Harvard degree will guarantee you get insane job offers.
You're mostly right, but there are no "special awards and packages" given to athletes. There just aren't. No merit scholarship in the Ivy league. Great financial aid though.
Don't know how many, but afaik, yes. No other big hitter.
Apparently, the team is doing pretty well without them. Shame Henz gave it so little time I think.
Please give your honest assessment of Alex Gibby as a coach RIGHT NOW. And don't point to Graham Blanks and Acer Iverson and Maia Ramsden. Go further down the roster.
Has he modified/sophisticated his training philosophy? Does he still throw athletes against the backboard and see what sticks.
Is he developing/maintaining athletes for the long term? Is his training brutal? What about recovery days?
Please be honest and well informed and well analytical in your response......and not the typical LR numb nutz.
Apparently, the team is doing pretty well without them. Shame Henz gave it so little time I think.
Please give your honest assessment of Alex Gibby as a coach RIGHT NOW. And don't point to Graham Blanks and Acer Iverson and Maia Ramsden. Go further down the roster.
Has he modified/sophisticated his training philosophy? Does he still throw athletes against the backboard and see what sticks.
Is he developing/maintaining athletes for the long term? Is his training brutal? What about recovery days?
Please be honest and well informed and well analytical in your response......and not the typical LR numb nutz.
Thank you in advance for not being a numb nutz.
Here is my honest assessment, please don't interpret this as me saying he's a bad coach.
Gibby's recent successes are 100% due to recruiting. The talent being brought in is INFINITELY better than ever before at Harvard.
The enhanced recruiting is due to several things, most of which Gibby is a beneficiary of rather than him doing on his own:
1. They have 9 paid coaches on staff, 4 of which are distance coaches.
2. Increased support from admissions, particularly with "slots" for athletes that wouldn't meet the non-athlete admissions standards. Admissions is helping them with international athletes more so than in the past. Financial aid has become more robust as well.
3. SAT optional recruiting has exponentially increased his recruiting pool, whereas previously the SAT score was the obstacle that even people with perfect GPAs couldn't clear.
4. Harvard's academic reputation, as well as it's location in Boston
5. A 50 billion dollar endowment which gives the school an essentially limitless amount of money to spend
If his training methods were superior, then they should have had more than 5 guys break 25:00 for 8k at Franklin Park (which is an easy course). Yale's 6th, 7th, and 8th runners beat Harvard's respective 6-7-8 runners, which is actually pathetic for a school that placed so high at Nationals.
Harvard's women only had 3 runners under 21:30 at Franklin Park as well. That's only 5:46 pace. 21:30 is an average time.
It seems like there's a lot of talented athletes at Harvard that have stagnated or that have not lived up to their promise from high school.
Please give your honest assessment of Alex Gibby as a coach RIGHT NOW. And don't point to Graham Blanks and Acer Iverson and Maia Ramsden. Go further down the roster.
Has he modified/sophisticated his training philosophy? Does he still throw athletes against the backboard and see what sticks.
Is he developing/maintaining athletes for the long term? Is his training brutal? What about recovery days?
Please be honest and well informed and well analytical in your response......and not the typical LR numb nutz.
Thank you in advance for not being a numb nutz.
Here is my honest assessment, please don't interpret this as me saying he's a bad coach.
Gibby's recent successes are 100% due to recruiting. The talent being brought in is INFINITELY better than ever before at Harvard.
3. SAT optional recruiting has exponentially increased his recruiting pool, whereas previously the SAT score was the obstacle that even people with perfect GPAs couldn't clear.
4. Harvard's academic reputation, as well as it's location in Boston
Lol
And you're claiming you attended Harvard? So were you a diversity or connections admit?
my name is Ziggy Heint. I am a former all American for an institution in northern United States. After posting times of 1:48.9 in the 800m and 4:01 in the 1500m do I have a chance of joining the GIBBY ARMY at Harvard U??? Plz let me know.
Here is my honest assessment, please don't interpret this as me saying he's a bad coach.
Gibby's recent successes are 100% due to recruiting. The talent being brought in is INFINITELY better than ever before at Harvard.
The enhanced recruiting is due to several things, most of which Gibby is a beneficiary of rather than him doing on his own:
1. They have 9 paid coaches on staff, 4 of which are distance coaches.
2. Increased support from admissions, particularly with "slots" for athletes that wouldn't meet the non-athlete admissions standards. Admissions is helping them with international athletes more so than in the past. Financial aid has become more robust as well.
3. SAT optional recruiting has exponentially increased his recruiting pool, whereas previously the SAT score was the obstacle that even people with perfect GPAs couldn't clear.
4. Harvard's academic reputation, as well as it's location in Boston
5. A 50 billion dollar endowment which gives the school an essentially limitless amount of money to spend
If his training methods were superior, then they should have had more than 5 guys break 25:00 for 8k at Franklin Park (which is an easy course). Yale's 6th, 7th, and 8th runners beat Harvard's respective 6-7-8 runners, which is actually pathetic for a school that placed so high at Nationals.
Harvard's women only had 3 runners under 21:30 at Franklin Park as well. That's only 5:46 pace. 21:30 is an average time.
It seems like there's a lot of talented athletes at Harvard that have stagnated or that have not lived up to their promise from high school.
This is mostly accurate. While Gibby's training has worked well for Ramsden and Blanks, it clearly hasn't worked well for many other talented athletes on Harvard's team such as Vivien Henz (3:38 in high school, faster than Colin Sahlman).
If Valby was at Harvard, his training would have ruined her career within 6 months.
Here is my honest assessment, please don't interpret this as me saying he's a bad coach.
Gibby's recent successes are 100% due to recruiting. The talent being brought in is INFINITELY better than ever before at Harvard.
The enhanced recruiting is due to several things, most of which Gibby is a beneficiary of rather than him doing on his own:
1. They have 9 paid coaches on staff, 4 of which are distance coaches.
2. Increased support from admissions, particularly with "slots" for athletes that wouldn't meet the non-athlete admissions standards. Admissions is helping them with international athletes more so than in the past. Financial aid has become more robust as well.
3. SAT optional recruiting has exponentially increased his recruiting pool, whereas previously the SAT score was the obstacle that even people with perfect GPAs couldn't clear.
4. Harvard's academic reputation, as well as it's location in Boston
5. A 50 billion dollar endowment which gives the school an essentially limitless amount of money to spend
If his training methods were superior, then they should have had more than 5 guys break 25:00 for 8k at Franklin Park (which is an easy course). Yale's 6th, 7th, and 8th runners beat Harvard's respective 6-7-8 runners, which is actually pathetic for a school that placed so high at Nationals.
Harvard's women only had 3 runners under 21:30 at Franklin Park as well. That's only 5:46 pace. 21:30 is an average time.
It seems like there's a lot of talented athletes at Harvard that have stagnated or that have not lived up to their promise from high school.
This is mostly accurate. While Gibby's training has worked well for Ramsden and Blanks, it clearly hasn't worked well for many other talented athletes on Harvard's team such as Vivien Henz (3:38 in high school, faster than Colin Sahlman).
If Valby was at Harvard, his training would have ruined her career within 6 months.
Hard to know if it worked or not for athletes that only give it a year...
This is mostly accurate. While Gibby's training has worked well for Ramsden and Blanks, it clearly hasn't worked well for many other talented athletes on Harvard's team such as Vivien Henz (3:38 in high school, faster than Colin Sahlman).
If Valby was at Harvard, his training would have ruined her career within 6 months.
Hard to know if it worked or not for athletes that only give it a year...
It's easy to know if it worked or not within a year - Henz got slower and then he quit to train his own way.
Gibby was unable to make him faster, and was not flexible to meet the needs of the athlete.
You should not get slower even in a transition phase. Double the mileage, at a much faster pace than before, you at least expect a few PRs at the end for all the hard work.