Jim Walmsley going for Kilian Jornet's Hardrock 100 Record, by himself July 22nd

Alright here is where it gets interesting.

A bad section or a blowup can make or break it now.

The tracker hasn't move much in the past 50 minutes or so. Doesn't seem like a place to get lost, since he just left a road and got on the trail in the right location.

reed wrote:

reed wrote:

nerd alert: here are Kilian's splits:

https://www.opensplittime.org/events/hardrock-100-2014/spread

Jim's splits (approx): (pacific time)

Start 5:00am (0.0)

Kamm Traverse 7:03am (11.4mi) (15min ahead of KJ)

Chapman 8:26am (18.4mi) (19min ahead of KJ)

Telluride ~10am (estimated) (27.7) (~20-25min ahead of KJ)

Kroger 11:18am (32.7) (60min ahead of KJ)

Governor 11:45am (36.0) (60min ahead of KJ)

Ouray ~12:40pm (estimated) (43.9) (~60-65min ahead of KJ)

Engineer 2:35pm (51.8) (~75min ahead of KJ)***

Grouse 4:00pm (58.3) (75-80min ahead of KJ)

keep in mind that I don't know exactly where the aid stations are so these are all estimates.

I realized that I made a mistake for Engineer. The aid station is not where I thought it was and I adjusted the quoted text above. He was at Engineer at 2:35pm, not 3:05pm. Makes much more sense.

Burrows 6:25pm (67.9) (80min ahead of KJ)

Sherman 6:55pm (71.7) (~90min ahead of KJ)

Looks like he's either taking a long break just after Sherman (unlikely considering he just made up another ten minutes on Kilian) or his tracker has been having issues. He's had one or two sections with no tracking for over an hour so probably nothing to worry about. Does look like there are some waypoints all in the same area with increasing timestamps though, so maybe he is taking a break.

If there aren't enough observers as there would be in a real race how do we know he is running the course honestly?

Did just jump into a taxi?

Did he hide mountain bikes at certain points?

I mean.. he's post his live GPS data... ?

one could also load up on the EPO-testoboost-hgh and blow this record outta the water!

Did Walmsley make a wrong turn? If that is what happened, it looks like it cost him a little over 20 minutes.

Or he could have stopped for a snack and change of shoes. He loves to change his shoes.

The fact that iRunfar.com has no part in this or has not tweeted anything about it shows what a joke that website Is and why they continue to decline in relevant content.

iRunTerribleMedia wrote:

The fact that iRunfar.com has no part in this or has not tweeted anything about it shows what a joke that website Is and why they continue to decline in relevant content.

chill dude...maybe Jim and crew didn't want iRunfar around for some reason. Maybe they've got their own video crew.

Irunfar sucks, and always did.

Kilian's CR can only be beat in a race, which this isn't.

Tin foil wrote:

Irunfar sucks, and always did.

Kilian's CR can only be beat in a race, which this isn't.

wow, what a genius you are.

of course this wouldn't count as a course record. nobody is saying it would.

FYI, it seems that Garmin's servers are down across the board, it's not just Jim. my friend ran tonight and he can't upload his run to garmin connect.

we might hear something from his team when he gets to Cunningham (mile 91). It took Kilian about 5 hours to get from Sherman to Cunningham (about 20mi). Kilian was on a tear at that point in the race (relatively speaking) and Jim would probably expect to lose some time there.

His GPS tracker stopped working about 7pm pacific time, and it's now a little after 10pm. We should hear from his crew within 3 hours if he's still moving alright. Hopefully in 2 hours, but who knows if they have the ability to relay that info from the mountains.

Why do you get personal? Did I make a comment on you? Or on Jim?

Anyway, with the tracker down, will the watch data be enough to get the FKT accepted, if he did indeed run faster than Kilian?

It's important to point out it isn't a race because Kilian's CR was run under a set of rules that aren't necessarily being followed here. Remember what happened to Xavier? Is Jim getting support where designated aid stations would be or elsewhere along the course.

That mad nutter woman who always posts on any ultra event as fake news is going to have a field day on this one if he breaks the "record"

Tin foil wrote:

Anyway, with the tracker down, will the watch data be enough to get the FKT accepted, if he did indeed run faster than Kilian?

It's important to point out it isn't a race because Kilian's CR was run under a set of rules that aren't necessarily being followed here. Remember what happened to Xavier? Is Jim getting support where designated aid stations would be or elsewhere along the course.

I don't know Jim personally, but have seen him hanging around Hardrock for several years and am quite sure he's well versed in the official rules. I'm guessing he's following them to the extent possible out of respect if nothing else. (Perhaps a few minor deviations due to logistical issues, who knows).

All that said, we get it - it's not an official race. But if he smokes the official CR it will be impressive nonetheless. After his '17 and '18 relative flameouts at UTMB I for one wasn't convinced he was built for rugged mountain ultras, but if he pulls this off... wow!

Rockz wrote:

That mad nutter woman who always posts on any ultra event as fake news is going to have a field day on this one if he breaks the "record"

^^^POTD!

Come on, he did pretty well at UTMB. What was he, 5th? 4th? With better pacing, a sure podium finish. He wasn't beating François or Kilian that year, but maybe another time. I believe he's got what it takes to win UTMB in the right year.

But a solo run under who knows what conditions can't be measured against a CR, with the pressure of competition and race strategy. It's just different.

At least is not as bad as all the RunTubers claiming PRs on solo time trials on unmeasured courses, just off GPS data.

Big Jim could win any race in the world that he wanted (outside of the US trials, Rupp had him covered there but he would have definitely finished second if he didn't decide to start his warm down early). He doesn't need to run these types of events, but he does to keep his generous fans satisfied.

Tin foil wrote:

But a solo run under who knows what conditions can't be measured against a CR, with the pressure of competition and race strategy. It's just different.

Sure it can. It's not the same, but it can and will be compared if he puts up a good time. Sure, it's not a race win or CR, but it's possible for an FKT to be a better performance.