Elise Cranny never been Drug tested ?!?!

She went pro a year ago and hadn’t really done that much until last week.

What's the point in testing her? USATF and WADA shelter US and UK drug cheats and slam Russia and Kenya.

She will be now.

Prior though, I would imagine she hadn’t reached a level to spend finite time/money resources on.

Let’s be real, it makes little sense to test a wide circle some of the time and does make sense to test a very fast time/huge performance jump type of athlete most of the time.

Rogers Stones wrote:

What's the point in testing her? USATF and WADA shelter US and UK drug cheats and slam Russia and Kenya.

This statement is completely untrue and is the kind of falsehood and cynical directed statement that comes from an ill minded under accomplished individual.

bertebob wrote:

So I just listened to the Citius Mag podcast about Elise Cranny

And at the he always asks the same questions one of them being : what's your funniest drug testing story

Her answer : I have never been tested ...

How can this be possible ?

A group with this success should be tested monthly in and out of competition ! And not only the athletes competing but also the once who are injured ...

I do not want to say that any of the BTC members are on juice but If even such a high profiled Team is not tested I do not want to know how much others are tested all over the world ...

USADA what about reacting to this as this is clearly showing that you are simply not doing your work ...

I do think some members of BTC are juicing and this is why. You get to run all drugged up while they tested NOP every 2 weeks and found nothing.

birdbeard wrote:

She went pro a year ago and hadn’t really done that much until last week.

not done that much ? well for me if you make a NCAA final you just simply have to be tested ...

She was runner up even at one time

+ she is making money with this so this is her profession and part of this is being tested on a regular bases in order to proof that you are not earning this money because you are cheating !

Again this is absolutely not the fault of Cranny but how can USADA be so ignorant and simply do not do there job ...

This is a real shock for me ...

I can’t believe that. Literally every athlete on my D1 team years ago was tested multiple times as part of regular and/or randomly selected university and conference tests. Apparently Stanford doesn’t do that?

Rogers Stones wrote:

What's the point in testing her? USATF and WADA shelter US and UK drug cheats and slam Russia and Kenya.

Agree with your point about not testing her...they'll test her now ;-) Not sure about your second point... is there anything to support this ?

People are not subjected to in and out of season testing until they are top 50 in world. (That was the case 10-15 years ago and I think it is still the same.) Other than that, you are only tested if you are at a meet that has testing. People are not tested just because they run for a fast group. Unfortunately, this does allow for a fast group to dope and get better for a couple of years, stay out of the top 50 and then explode on the world scene as the Chinese did with Mau's Army. (Can't remember how to spell his name.) from then on they would be subjected to out of season testing so they just disappeared.

Those college tests are typically only for straight drugs.

d;f;f/cf wrote:

People are not subjected to in and out of season testing until they are top 50 in world. (That was the case 10-15 years ago and I think it is still the same.) Other than that, you are only tested if you are at a meet that has testing. People are not tested just because they run for a fast group. Unfortunately, this does allow for a fast group to dope and get better for a couple of years, stay out of the top 50 and then explode on the world scene as the Chinese did with Mau's Army. (Can't remember how to spell his name.) from then on they would be subjected to out of season testing so they just disappeared.

This, and also the rules let you give the tester a miss once they do start testing you. If you know when you're "glowing", you can just keep doing this as long as you don't exceed your max missed tests. That might cause them to start targeting you, but it's a lot easier to get out of whereabouts misses than a failed test.

Don't schools have to do testing? I know people who ran in shitty lower-tier D1 programs and got tested multiple times by athletic trainers

Why should you be surprised?

The testing system in USA pro and many universities leaves a lot of space to wiggle wobble. Last week I posted about the controversy after ONDCP slammed WADA.

WADA reply is the USA (ONDCP) does not contribute enough money to help fight drugs (Canada contributes more to WADA budget than USA) and ONDCP should increase efforts to protect young Americans in a sports environment, where the rules fall short of those established by WADA,” which would include most college and professional sports in the U.S.

You do realize the testing for World Marathon majors is questionable..

MLB, NFL, NBA don't turn up many positives. Ever wonder why?

How many NCAA positives?

What about FIFA?

Does IAAF/WAF track have the toughest drug testing in sport?? I would say, arguably, yes..

That's a thread..

My time at at group of 5 school and power 5 school, I was never tested by my actual university. Only times our athletic trainers would test people was if they thought they could bust them for coke or weed.

Did anyone else see Kate Grace's Instagram story from last night that showed a screenshot of a text message saying "[Moh Ahmed] IS THE GREATEST DISTANCE RUNNER AND THE CLEANEST PERSON WE KNOW" Is it just me or does this imply that the other people they know (aka other members of the Bowerman team) aren't clean? Am I missing something?

d;f;f/cf wrote:

People are not subjected to in and out of season testing until they are top 50 in world. (That was the case 10-15 years ago and I think it is still the same.) Other than that, you are only tested if you are at a meet that has testing. People are not tested just because they run for a fast group. Unfortunately, this does allow for a fast group to dope and get better for a couple of years, stay out of the top 50 and then explode on the world scene as the Chinese did with Mau's Army. (Can't remember how to spell his name.) from then on they would be subjected to out of season testing so they just disappeared.

Cranny is number 3 in the world from the race on June 30, and her time was a 37 second improvement. One would think there more drug testers in Oregon than the whole rest of North America.

First Coleman let’s everyone know the friendly testers in the US give you a reminder call, now this ...

I’m a 1:48/3:40 runner. My national anti doping agency has tested me 4 times. This isn’t good enough from USADA

Not to mention that apparently only Americans eat beef, kiss their girlfriends, and make “mistakes” on their whereabouts ...

Bizarre. I was a walk on left over guy who ran his but off and I got tested multiple times and our team was not very strong at the time.

It's unnerving having to test and it's worse after you have run for an hour in 100 degree heat to have to pee in a cup while someone is watching.

Other not clean wrote:

Did anyone else see Kate Grace's Instagram story from last night that showed a screenshot of a text message saying "[Moh Ahmed] IS THE GREATEST DISTANCE RUNNER AND THE CLEANEST PERSON WE KNOW" Is it just me or does this imply that the other people they know (aka other members of the Bowerman team) aren't clean? Am I missing something?

It seems pretty clear she is implying that they are clean. She literally said it.