SHELBY MF HOULIHAN 14:23.

if the girls where on HGH as others claimed, their abs would stick out like a turtle shell (look at body builders) because of liver growth

casual obsever wrote:

You make it sound like we are just starting now. But, it's been like that since decades; remember USATF covering up over 100 positives in the 80s/90s? And at worlds 2011 and 2013, both the Americans and the Kenyans were about average in blood doping (18% or so).

Here we are talking about the 5000 m. The fastest 5000 m Caucasian, Baumann, was banned in the 90s for doping.

In that sense, the comparison with cycling is a good one - the Europeans/Americans have been doping there since decades too.

As for BTC, Jager was the most suspicious likely blood doper in 2016, as the only one with comical 5! out of 3 priority stars.

The difference during COVID is of course that the dopers got a lot bolder - no more holding back ("micro"dosing) required.

Bump - lolz.

Drug cheats out!

Should have added:

Here we are talking about the 5000 m. The fastest female 5000 m Caucasian, Shobukhova, was also banned for doping.

And now I can add: The second fastest female 5000 m Caucasian, Houlihan, was also banned for doping. The third fastest female 5000 m Caucasian is Houlihan's teammate Schweizer. The fourth fastest female 5000 m Caucasian is Klosterhalfen, previously trained by now banned Salazar. The fifth fastest female 5000 m Caucasian is likely doper Radcliffe, well known for her crazy off score jumps. The sixth fastest female 5000 m Caucasian is Russian Yegorova from 2001...

Wow, just wow.

Armstronglivs wrote:

The response to the achievements of two athletes who have made - and are still making - off the charts improvements says everything about where the sport is now. Hard work and talent no longer convince when it is equally possible that it was something extra.

And so it was.

TrackCoach wrote:

dullard wrote:

I guess this is what happens when doping control becomes lax during a pandemic.

If you are doping, the smart thing to do right is lay low. Do you agree?

Hahaha. Nope. This hasn't aged well either.

donut nut wrote:

Seriously. None of the BTC guys are remotely attractive except maybe Jager, who would look better with 20 lbs at least on his frame. But of course no one discusses that.

Shelby is cute and an even better runner.

Only better because she cheats. Not really cute either.

khorrps wrote:

lol that lockdown testing pause really paid off ay

Lol!!!

Working Stiff wrote:

It looked so freaking smooth! My wife kept talking about how easy it looked

Yay! ALL TIME PERSONAL RECORD FOR STEROIDS!

abcrunning wrote:

No kidding, amazing improvement.

I hope to see a WR attempt this year with the top East Africans. I’ve never seen this huge PR’s before by an elite level athlete. I mean the norm is just single digits, crazy improvements in just two races. What’s next 14:05 lol

Yeah sure. That will happen.

Too bad the East Africans are natural.

And Houlihan is on steroids. See the difference between the two??

Anything accomplished on steroids doesn't count.

This 14:23 needs to be deleted immediately.

jabouk wrote:

She has improved tremendously from 22 to 24

1500 down 4 secs, 3000 down 16 secs, 5000 down by a staggering 19?? or so

It wouldn't have anything to do with DECA or nandralone use would it?

bigtool05 wrote:

ahh crap, she's faster than me now

Don't worry. It doesn't count. She did it on steroids.

must be doping wrote:

must be epo.... unless is it is possible for Dibaba et al to be clean.

massive improvement. no testing. from country (us) with long history of doping in olympic sports.

Is there going to be a cash fine for houlihan as well?

Seems like more and more athletes will do steroids just to get cash.

Shouldn't there be a rule stating that they now owe anything they earned back to whoever? Or some type of fine to go along with the 4 year ban?

John_James_413 wrote:

bigtool05 wrote:

ahh crap, she's faster than me now

Don't worry. It doesn't count. She did it on steroids.

This thread is 11 months old. Shelby's positive test was this past December. No proof that she was taking anything at the time of her 14:23.

jeff tallon wrote:

good to see her cocktail of drugs is working well for her.theres no way in hell she is running clean.

+1

It was working well until the test that resulted in a 4 year ban.

don't treat a number wrote:

John_James_413 wrote:

Don't worry. It doesn't count. She did it on steroids.

This thread is 11 months old. Shelby's positive test was this past December. No proof that she was taking anything at the time of her 14:23.

If she was taking it in December she was taking it when she set the AR. Frankly, I am tired of talking about her. Everything she ever did in track is expunged and replaced by "blatant cheater." She is a disgrace to the sport.