Is 25 MPW too much for a new runner to do?

david45 wrote:

HRE > Rupp wrote:

It's okay to start with 25 mpw. After 3-4 weeks, increase that to 30 mpw. After 3-4 of that, go up to 35 mpw. If you add 5 mpw every four weeks, you can get up to 90 mpw after one year.

But that is not how it works in the real world. If what you said is true, then why don't you see HS runners run 90 MPW after a year of training?

I probably got a couple 90 mile weeks after a year of running. I ran 8th grade track and ran the 880 yd. run. Interval based training probably 20 miles a week. The summer before 9th grade, I started with a 4+ mile run every day for a few weeks before my first 10k. By the end of the summer I was running about an hour a day probably 7-7:30 pace. Didn't keep track but had to be doing 55-60 miles a week. The following summer I consistently ran 60 a week with some bigger weeks that approached 90. The goal for the summer was to get close to 1,000 miles.

I NEVER ran any workouts during the summer. It was always consistent pace mileage with a road race every couple weeks.

HRE > Rupp wrote:

david45 wrote:

But that is not how it works in the real world. If what you said is true, then why don't you see HS runners run 90 MPW after a year of training?

Because they lack the motivation to run 90 mpw. So they get complacent after reaching 50 mpw or so, and don't try to run more.

BS. Nico Young doesn't run 90 MPW

HRE > Rupp wrote:

david45 wrote:

But that is not how it works in the real world. If what you said is true, then why don't you see HS runners run 90 MPW after a year of training?

Because they lack the motivation to run 90 mpw. So they get complacent after reaching 50 mpw or so, and don't try to run more.

Most varsity HS runners run 60-70 MPW

Most run 35mpw. A few coaches I know only have their guys run 25MPW. A few others I know do 50 MPW. 35 is the average.

David, you never got an MRI to disprove this silly visible crack on the Xray. You can't afford the MRI but you can afford UCLA. You never had a stress fracture. You are just slow and untalented. Get ready to assist the club team as a manager. Most people can't run and they accept it. You could get fulfillment out of helping others instead of being so darn selfish.

hs coaches wrote:

Most run 35mpw. A few coaches I know only have their guys run 25MPW. A few others I know do 50 MPW. 35 is the average.

David, you never got an MRI to disprove this silly visible crack on the Xray. You can't afford the MRI but you can afford UCLA. You never had a stress fracture. You are just slow and untalented. Get ready to assist the club team as a manager. Most people can't run and they accept it. You could get fulfillment out of helping others instead of being so darn selfish.

I never said I couldn't afford a MRI. I did get one and it confirmed I have a stress fracture.

David. You really need to start looking ahead instead of backwards. Take ownership of things and get a move on kid. I am challenging you to answer each one of these and not fire off a one liners like you always do. Stress fractures are not all caused by the same things. First and foremost: No it's not too much milage, especially spread out over 6 sessions. 25 miles, even at 10 minute mile pace over 6 sessions equates to each session being around 41 minutes. No, that is not too much or too long.

1. Did you get your running shoes properly fit to you and your gait?

2. Did a coach or anyone look at your foot strike and gait?

3. Do you land on your heal or mid foot?

4. Do you have a heavy foot fall?

5. Were you eating enough and eating the right things?

6. Were you sleeping enough?

Not everything is someone else's fault, down to genetics, or some other random bit. Start taking flipping ownership of your situations and opportunities. You're headed to a Pac12 school with club running options. You have a chance to be a part of a team if you quit whining and complaining so much.

1. No

2. No

3. Yes

4. No

5. Yes

6. Yes

Swim Bike Run wrote:

You're headed to a Pac12 school with club running options. You have a chance to be a part of a team if you quit whining and complaining so much.

I went there 30 years ago, so maybe things have changed. They had intramural club sports, such as the cross country meet and all-comer's track meet (I won races at both). But they didn't have a club running team. The club teams in all the sports were basically the different fraternities competing against each other.

donuts wrote:

Swim Bike Run wrote:

You're headed to a Pac12 school with club running options. You have a chance to be a part of a team if you quit whining and complaining so much.

I went there 30 years ago, so maybe things have changed. They had intramural club sports, such as the cross country meet and all-comer's track meet (I won races at both). But they didn't have a club running team. The club teams in all the sports were basically the different fraternities competing against each other.

they have "running" and "track and field" under co-ed club sports with what looks like a legit schedule

1. Most run stores offer a free fit analysis. You need to wear the right shoes to avoid injury.

2. Most injuries are caused by poor form. You need a coach to look at your technique.

3. This is not a yes or no question smartass.

4. If you haven't had a coach or analysis done, how would you know?

5. Ok, sure. hopefully you were eating more than enough protein, carbs, etc to actually repair yourself.

6. Ok sure. Hopefully this is 9+ hours every night.

Swim Bike Run wrote:

david45 wrote:

1. No

2. No

3. Yes

4. No

5. Yes

6. Yes

1. Most run stores offer a free fit analysis. You need to wear the right shoes to avoid injury.

2. Most injuries are caused by poor form. You need a coach to look at your technique.

3. This is not a yes or no question smartass.

4. If you haven't had a coach or analysis done, how would you know?

5. Ok, sure. hopefully you were eating more than enough protein, carbs, etc to actually repair yourself.

6. Ok sure. Hopefully this is 9+ hours every night.

I meant I land on my mid foot

Swim Bike Run wrote:

david45 wrote:

1. No

2. No

3. Yes

4. No

5. Yes

6. Yes

1. Most run stores offer a free fit analysis. You need to wear the right shoes to avoid injury.

2. Most injuries are caused by poor form. You need a coach to look at your technique.

3. This is not a yes or no question smartass.

4. If you haven't had a coach or analysis done, how would you know?

5. Ok, sure. hopefully you were eating more than enough protein, carbs, etc to actually repair yourself.

6. Ok sure. Hopefully this is 9+ hours every night.

The guy previously said his diet consists of only banana, bread and chicken. When questioned about why he doesn't eat a better diet, his excuse was that he was too poor to avoid vegetables and eat salads every day.

thiscupisnthaflfull wrote:

Swim Bike Run wrote:

1. Most run stores offer a free fit analysis. You need to wear the right shoes to avoid injury.

2. Most injuries are caused by poor form. You need a coach to look at your technique.

3. This is not a yes or no question smartass.

4. If you haven't had a coach or analysis done, how would you know?

5. Ok, sure. hopefully you were eating more than enough protein, carbs, etc to actually repair yourself.

6. Ok sure. Hopefully this is 9+ hours every night.

The guy previously said his diet consists of only banana, bread and chicken. When questioned about why he doesn't eat a better diet, his excuse was that he was too poor to avoid vegetables and eat salads every day.

The reason why I said I was poor is because I live in California, where the cost of living is high.

There's literally free food if you're in college, fresh vegetables and all. Co-ops and all too.

You're just not seeking it out and feeling sorry for yourself. Pathetic the way you don't seek ways to improve yourself and complain about every single thing.

come on dude wrote:

There's literally free food if you're in college, fresh vegetables and all. Co-ops and all too.

You're just not seeking it out and feeling sorry for yourself. Pathetic the way you don't seek ways to improve yourself and complain about every single thing.

Okay, Karen

thiscupisnthaflfull wrote:

Swim Bike Run wrote:

1. Most run stores offer a free fit analysis. You need to wear the right shoes to avoid injury.

2. Most injuries are caused by poor form. You need a coach to look at your technique.

3. This is not a yes or no question smartass.

4. If you haven't had a coach or analysis done, how would you know?

5. Ok, sure. hopefully you were eating more than enough protein, carbs, etc to actually repair yourself.

6. Ok sure. Hopefully this is 9+ hours every night.

The guy previously said his diet consists of only banana, bread and chicken. When questioned about why he doesn't eat a better diet, his excuse was that he was too poor to avoid vegetables and eat salads every day.

Then what is a good diet?

david45 wrote:

[quote]come on dude wrote:

There's literally free food if you're in college, fresh vegetables and all. Co-ops and all too.

You're just not seeking it out and feeling sorry for yourself. Pathetic the way you don't seek ways to improve yourself and complain about every single thing.

Okay, Karen[/

I cant, i just cant. Wholly f*ck!

the hypocrisy... wrote:

david45 wrote:

[quote]come on dude wrote:

There's literally free food if you're in college, fresh vegetables and all. Co-ops and all too.

You're just not seeking it out and feeling sorry for yourself. Pathetic the way you don't seek ways to improve yourself and complain about every single thing.

Okay, Karen[/

I cant, i just cant. Wholly f*ck!

What?

the hypocrisy... wrote:

david45 wrote:

Okay, Karen[/

I cant, i just cant. Wholly f*ck!

What?

The fact you called him/her a Karen when in fact you are being the biggest, whiniest bîtćh I’ve ever seen. You are pathetic in how you refuse to help yourself and wallow in your own self pity. People have tried to help you with your mental state and you insist on being a complete soup sandwich