Wilson Kipsang banned for 4 years

El Keniano wrote:

Yes. I was very interested in knowing exactly what the "tampering" charge was. Apparently, after his third whereabouts failure, he provided a picture of an overturned truck claiming it had blocked his way. However, that picture was from an accident three months before.

LOL, yes, and did you look at the dates?

Three whereabouts failures from April 27 2018 to April 12 2019, so he was almost in the clear before he, say, slipped up again.

And then he topped it off with a fourth missed test on May 17 2019 like Coleman and Naser, about which he also lied!

The nerves, unbelievable!

casual obsever wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Yes. I was very interested in knowing exactly what the "tampering" charge was. Apparently, after his third whereabouts failure, he provided a picture of an overturned truck claiming it had blocked his way. However, that picture was from an accident three months before.

LOL, yes, and did you look at the dates?

Three whereabouts failures from April 27 2018 to April 12 2019, so he was almost in the clear before he, say, slipped up again.

And then he topped it off with a fourth missed test on May 17 2019 like Coleman and Naser, about which he also lied!

The nerves, unbelievable!

Wouldn’t the April 27 failure have to be backdated to April 1 (first day of the quarter) consistent with the policy that helped Coleman get out of his first trio of missed tests? If so Wilson wouldn’t have 3 in 12 months based on the third being April 12.

Random question xyz wrote:

casual obsever wrote:

LOL, yes, and did you look at the dates?

Three whereabouts failures from April 27 2018 to April 12 2019, so he was almost in the clear before he, say, slipped up again.

And then he topped it off with a fourth missed test on May 17 2019 like Coleman and Naser, about which he also lied!

The nerves, unbelievable!

Wouldn’t the April 27 failure have to be backdated to April 1 (first day of the quarter) consistent with the policy that helped Coleman get out of his first trio of missed tests? If so Wilson wouldn’t have 3 in 12 months based on the third being April 12.

Sorry missed the May missed test / 4th one. That must have done it (presumably the second was post July 1 prior year which would make the May one the third given the April 12 one).

No. Only filing failures (here: the January 2019 one) get backdated to the beginning of the quarter (here January 18 to January 1). The other three were missed tests and therefore didn't get backdated.

Coleman got lucky that the USADA tester said about the first failure to have started the testing attempt at 8:01 instead of between 7:00 and 8:00, which was therefore counted as a filing failure, not as a missed test. So that one got backdated and Coleman went home free, most unfortunately (until he started missing tests again, lol).

John NY wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

And we're the only country that's done it.

+1

Well done Kenya.

+2

The U.K. knights theirs, and Americans just chalk it up as being an entitled dumb@ss.

vigilante wrote:

John NY wrote:

+1

Well done Kenya.

+2

The U.K. knights theirs, and Americans just chalk it up as being an entitled dumb@ss.

Oh really, a Kenyan without carbon-plated shoes recently ran 26:24 for 10km on the roads at an extremely odd time of the year (the off season). Any talk of Kenya cleaning house is satire at best.

Subway Surfers wrote:

vigilante wrote:

+2

The U.K. knights theirs, and Americans just chalk it up as being an entitled dumb@ss.

Oh really, a Kenyan without carbon-plated shoes recently ran 26:24 for 10km on the roads at an extremely odd time of the year (the off season). Any talk of Kenya cleaning house is satire at best.

Off season?

hahahaha Educate yourself.

Loving how butthurt you are when clean Africans run great times. :)

What a shock; yet another in the long-long-long list of nike doping cheaters.

Subway! I was waiting for you. The jokes are writing themselves here.

Now we just need the British troll to tell us that there is nothing to see here and no reason for suspicion.

Lol.

say whatt wrote:

What a shock; yet another in the long-long-long list of nike doping cheaters.

You don't really follow the sport, do you?

Subway Surfers wrote:

vigilante wrote:

+2

The U.K. knights theirs, and Americans just chalk it up as being an entitled dumb@ss.

Oh really, a Kenyan without carbon-plated shoes recently ran 26:24 for 10km on the roads at an extremely odd time of the year (the off season). Any talk of Kenya cleaning house is satire at best.

I wonder what it’d look like if the U.S. and the U.K. agreed to clean house instead of protecting their cheaters (absurd almost 0% bust rate), let alone the near-universal TUE abuse. Back to pathetic high school equivalent times across the board?

El Keniano wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

Oh really, a Kenyan without carbon-plated shoes recently ran 26:24 for 10km on the roads at an extremely odd time of the year (the off season). Any talk of Kenya cleaning house is satire at best.

I wonder what it’d look like if the U.S. and the U.K. agreed to clean house instead of protecting their cheaters (absurd almost 0% bust rate), let alone the near-universal TUE abuse. Back to pathetic high school equivalent times across the board?

I love how El KenEPO wants bonus points now for guys testing positive and evading tests while glowing!

Hey El KenEPO, face it, y'all can't win at anything without cheating. Sad.

Coach Renato makes an excellent point in this Russian video from the Bekele thread. Rampant ignorance and lack of primary education - sometimes manifest through full-on illiteracy; a country flooded with cheap, generic medicines from China and India; and ridiculous examples such as the Lucy Kabuu morphine case. Fair to say a significant number of banned Kenyans wouldn't have been sanctioned if they’d had access to half-decent medical AND legal services available to the average westerner.

Yet Kenya doesn't make excuses or cover for them because - rules. Seriously, think about it. An athlete that can barely read failing to file ADAMS whereabouts properly isn't the sport’s worst enemy. Yet all Salazar athletes remain unblemished by his doping crimes, and even he has a good chance of acquittal, on appeal.

https://youtu.be/tbXffWUxqoU

casual obsever wrote:

No. Only filing failures (here: the January 2019 one) get backdated to the beginning of the quarter (here January 18 to January 1). The other three were missed tests and therefore didn't get backdated.

Coleman got lucky that the USADA tester said about the first failure to have started the testing attempt at 8:01 instead of between 7:00 and 8:00, which was therefore counted as a filing failure, not as a missed test. So that one got backdated and Coleman went home free, most unfortunately (until he started missing tests again, lol).

Thanks

Silver medalist at the marathon at London in 2012. Keflezighi was fourth in that race. I wonder if he'll be upgraded to bronze.

The East Africans are the best distance runners in the world and have been since the 1960s. But the apologists for the Kenyan dopers never cease to amaze me. I remember one of the years Rita Jeptoo won Boston she came out of the Newton hills and was cranking out close to 5 minute miles. The announcers had absolutely no idea that something might be amiss!

East Africans are ALL dirty disgusting drug cheats

Every one of them

NativeSon wrote:

He provided AIU with a fake photograph.

Yes, so I wonder if he will be prosecuted as Florence Chepsoi is about to be for the same offence?

It's bizarre there appears not to have been a single thread on her and the likelihood that she faces jail - the first Kenyan doper to do so. I did post one but it appears the wonderful mods deleted it for whatever reason.

Fair play to the Kenyans, they do clearly want to clear up their mess (even if it's only because Coe behind the scenes has been very firmly threatening them with suspension). Doping will be a criminal offence in a couple of months, but they are trying to jail those convicted just before the new law gets passed, such as Chesgoi and hopefully Kipsang.

I would also like to ask Native Son (as the only Kenyan apparently on these boards) - do police officers who break the law and end up in prison get treated as roughly by other prisoners as cops do in most countries? In the USA and UK, for example, and I presume pretty much everywhere, they have to be kept in solitary or the sex offenders wings for their own safety in order to keep them apart from the gangsters and such.

I'm asking because so many elite Kenyan runners are given jobs in the police service or even the prison service itself. So now that doping is criminalized in Kenya, will it provide an extra disincentive not to dope?

casual obsever wrote:

Subway! I was waiting for you. The jokes are writing themselves here.

Now we just need the British troll to tell us that there is nothing to see here and no reason for suspicion.

Lol.

ahh miss you guys haha...lols on all these sub 2:04s getting busted.

EPO gives 3 min or so in a marathon and then the cheater shoes gets another 1:30

he was a 2:06 guy, just about as good as hall ever got....