See for yourself. No narrative or biased messaging just raw data.
See for yourself. No narrative or biased messaging just raw data.
Surely that's going to change for states like Texas and Florida, who got the majority of their cases in the past 3 weeks?
What is your angle? Society changed drastically and still over 100,000 excess people OUTSIDE NYC have died from this thing in the first wave. How many people have to die for it to be a problem for you?
Safe in Iowa wrote:
Surely that's going to change for states like Texas and Florida, who got the majority of their cases in the past 3 weeks?
What is your angle? Society changed drastically and still over 100,000 excess people OUTSIDE NYC have died from this thing in the first wave. How many people have to die for it to be a problem for you?
Troll post and/or moran. At this point US Covid deniers are just as bad as flat earthers. The evidence is undeniable.
Meanwhile in Florida
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/florida
The blood of thousands is on the hands of Cuomo and DelBlasio. Incompetent and evil demagogues.
Safe in Iowa wrote:
Surely that's going to change for states like Texas and Florida, who got the majority of their cases in the past 3 weeks?
What is your angle? Society changed drastically and still over 100,000 excess people OUTSIDE NYC have died from this thing in the first wave. How many people have to die for it to be a problem for you?
You're tunnel vision is not getting the full picture. The economic damage from this is simmering below the surface because central governments have been printing money to keep their populations in line. Starting August 1st, when government's are no longer able to take on more debt, bonus payouts to the unemployed go away in the US and most of Europe, there is going to be mass rioting, crime, and civil unrest. Starvation will be a very possibility in places like Hawaii, Nevada, and other tourism driven economies.
Safe in Iowa wrote:
still over 100,000 excess people OUTSIDE NYC have died from this thing
Nope. They had preexisting conditions that killed them while they happened to be infected with a cold virus.
Excess mortality charts deaths that are above the expected numbers. If enough people would have otherwise died and are finished off by COVID-19, their death certificates would almost certainly list this virus as the cause of death.
Still, the statistics would not show that these deaths were above what was expected in the population if these people would otherwise have died from other causes. The CDC tracks mortality rates quite well and can attribute excess deaths to various flus with relatively good accuracy. ANYBODY who reads this data properly will have to (a) agree that a relatively large excess mortality rate is occurring right now and (b) that the cause is COVID-19.
Nope. NYC metro was hit hardest because it was deeply seeded there before the lockdown. It's the most globally interconnected city in the world. It was seeded both directly from china and from Europe repeatedly in late January and throughout February. It was just undetectable because of all the background winter respiratory illnesses. Until it exploded.
Everywhere else in the US just lucked out. Until now. 2nd wave is exploding multifocally in Florida, Texas, Arizona and SoCal. I practice in AZ. There has been an explosion of disease and our ICUs are nearly full of COVID+ patients. Death rate is creeping up and is on the cusp of exploding.
It won't be the end of the world. But excess deaths will be as bad or worse here than in NYC because our health is terrible and we aren't locked down like NYC did.
Safe in Iowa wrote:
Surely that's going to change for states like Texas and Florida, who got the majority of their cases in the past 3 weeks?
What is your angle? Society changed drastically and still over 100,000 excess people OUTSIDE NYC have died from this thing in the first wave. How many people have to die for it to be a problem for you?
Hell, even the official, inflated numbers don't claim 100,000 Americans have died from Covid outside NYC, never mind excess deaths
Giles Corey wrote:
Safe in Iowa wrote:
Surely that's going to change for states like Texas and Florida, who got the majority of their cases in the past 3 weeks?
What is your angle? Society changed drastically and still over 100,000 excess people OUTSIDE NYC have died from this thing in the first wave. How many people have to die for it to be a problem for you?
Hell, even the official, inflated numbers don't claim 100,000 Americans have died from Covid outside NYC, never mind excess deaths
Yes they do. NYC has reccorded just over half of the deaths in NY State - or just over 16,000 of the 32,000 deaths there. Uninflated COVID-19 attributed deaths in the US now stand at 131,000, so at least 114,000 deaths technically outside of NYC.
We can split hairs if we want to spin a different narrative other than this is a pervasive, virulent, and deadly virus and it is behaving exactly as epidemiologists feared.
Lockdowns and travel bans work at slowing the spread. Some countries and regions got lucky because the virus didn't get there before the world woke up in early March. NYC got nailed and hard. They are through the worst of it but I still am not planning to go there any time soon.
Yep.
Daily deaths in FLA still < 50 and far below the April pick
[quote]Tinfoil Hat wrote:
[quote]Giles Corey wrote:
[quote]Safe in Iowa wrote:
Surely that's going to change for states like Texas and Florida, who got the majority of their cases in the past 3 weeks?
.NYC has reccorded just over half of the deaths in NY State - or just over 16,000 of the 32,000 deaths there.
Official NYC Covid death count 22,574 , or @ 40% more than 16,000
Uninflated COVID-19 attributed deaths in the US now stand at 131,000,
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