Jakob 1:46.4 with perfect pacing for 750m

Subway Surfers wrote:

666 square wrote:

Ah yes, Coevett, and did Aouita have two lab rat brothers, an obsessive coach/father, perfect training conditions, and professional training since childhood?

Perfect training conditions??? The various people I've read about, who have been to Morocco have all said it is the best weather to train in.

Very likely. He also spent several years at the elite National French sporting academy in Marseille (but didn't improve), then moved to Italy where he had multiple training facilities, tracks, and coaching at his disposal (including Canova), while spending the winters training in California.

As soon as broke through, the King of Morocco personally bought him a private villa in Casablanca. Aouita was the first Moroccan recipient of the royal finances that were later thrown at El G and his group.

And of course the main thing Aouita had was hgh (probably the first middle-distance runner), blood doping, roids, and perhaps even from 87 and probably no later than 89, the first with EPO. If it wasn't for all of that, likely none of us here would know who he was.

Anyway I don't see the poster's point about claiming that Jakob has an ideal environment. Other than that ideal environment should enable him to continue to progress into his twenties.

Aouita is a gift that just keeps on giving. Every time I casually Google him, I discover something new that adds to the dung pile.

Aldo Morbidi is Aouita's Siena doctor. "I spent 40 days with him in Mexico," he says. "The euphoria and the depression are interesting. He is always concentrated in training, never looks right or left. But when he goes to the track and there are many athletes there, he will not train. He changes his timetable to run alone. That's the fragility of his character."

How many middle-distance athletes in the 80's were spending 40 days at a time in Mexico City with their doctor?

Maybe Aouita and his doctor were staying at the same hospital that Keino was in when he climbed out of his bed to destroy Jim Ryun?

ISBN wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

800+ GOAT Augustine Choge

But the fundamental purpose of competition is winning. Yes, he has an impressive range, but what medals has he won?

He has won lots of races, and come in second or third lots of times too. Most of these were better races than medal races, which are really three races and the last one is real slow and won by whoever positions theirself the best. That doesn't make one a great runner.

When the fundamental question is range, a whole pile of medals doesn't outweigh someone going 1:44 and 59 and nearly every equivalent between. I wonder what is the second fastest HM for a sub 1:45 800 runner ?

Coevett wrote:

Aouita is a gift that just keeps on giving. Every time I casually Google him, I discover something new that adds to the dung pile.

You “casually” google him? What is the dung pile? Is this in your room? It sounds as if you are pleasuring yourself to pics of Said Aouita.

Who cares about Said Aouita. He doesn't hold any world records. What concerns Jakob he will likely run faster than all of Aouita's PBs in Aouitas favorite distances.

Coevett wrote:

Aouita is a gift that just keeps on giving. Every time I casually Google him, I discover something new that adds to the dung pile.

Aldo Morbidi is Aouita's Siena doctor. "I spent 40 days with him in Mexico," he says. "The euphoria and the depression are interesting. He is always concentrated in training, never looks right or left. But when he goes to the track and there are many athletes there, he will not train. He changes his timetable to run alone. That's the fragility of his character."

How many middle-distance athletes in the 80's were spending 40 days at a time in Mexico City with their doctor?

Maybe Aouita and his doctor were staying at the same hospital that Keino was in when he climbed out of his bed to destroy Jim Ryun?

https://vault.si.com/vault/1986/06/23/two-aces-on-a-collision-course

Very strange post. All professional athletes take medical staff to training camps.

It's things like this that show you know absolutely nothing about athletics, at any level above your park run nonsense. I even question your knowledge at that 'jogging for fun' level to be honest.

ex-runner wrote:

Very strange post. All professional athletes take medical staff to training camps.

Not true. Ingebrigtsens do not for example.