Coleman and Whereabouts Testing

Coleman does not have much sympathy, if any, from athletes, Lord Coe or the statistical averages.

If Coleman is allowed a "pass" AGAIN, I think a lot of athletes are going to be very upset. Considering Coleman, is a bit surly and does not have the charisma of a Gatlin, or Lyles, I can't say many people will be too upset he isn't lining up in the blocks.

The best part of this farce is that he thinks he is a victim and will somehow get a special deal for Tokyo? Wow.

What planet did Coleman dream that one up on, Bizzaro World or Htrae, because on earth a suspension with an Olympic exception has hertefore never happened.

The bright side of this upcoming suspension is, if you have to be suspended for any season, I would think this year is a good one to sit out? Next year, well.

I was surprised Katerina Stefanidi called him out on Twitter since they have the same agent. Interesting...

Swerving wrote:

Since early 2001, when the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency’s whereabouts system began, there have been 21 whereabouts sanctions out of 175,000 completed tests. That’s 0.00012%.

No, that is definitely not 0.00012%. It is 0.012%.

What's crazy about this whole situation is, as track & field aficionado and more specifically, a sprint analyst...I'm pretty certain Coleman is clean. I have followed Coleman since his senior year in high school and there is absolutely nothing he has done now or since then to suggest doping, outside of missing tests. I am not sure if it is arrogance, stupidity, carelessness, immaturity or whatever, if you are clean, repeatedly missing tests makes no sense. I was partially buying his excuse for missing the 3rd test, but like most people, the 4th one is unreconcilable. It's conflicting for me to say "I don't want to see Coleman in the 2021 Olympics", while at the same time believing he's actually clean. Btw, I would also call into question his family, friends, coaches, agent and sponsor because when you are the fastest man in the world, after missing (2) test, there should have been an all hands on deck to insure he didn't miss another one or basically to save Coleman from himself.

TrackCoach wrote:

if you are clean, repeatedly missing tests makes no sense.

Agree!

yeah, he didn't have too unbelievable a progression in any year, seemed like a steady climb (19->20 years old dropped 10.18->9.95, but many others at that age have done similar)

at what level do you coach?

khorrps wrote:

yeah, he didn't have too unbelievable a progression in any year, seemed like a steady climb (19->20 years old dropped 10.18->9.95, but many others at that age have done similar)

at what level do you coach?

I don't coach anymore, but I have coached youth programs, H.S., NCAA and elite. Although I don't officially coach anymore from time to time I will work with a high school athlete trying to get a scholarship in a technical discipline.

Just finished the LRC podcast with he discussion of Coleman and I can't understand why Rojo and Wejo are working so hard to find ways to convince themselves that Coleman shouldn't be ounished. Listening to previous episodes when they discussed Gabby Thomas they were much more hardline asking how a Harvard grad could let themselves get into that position. But Coleman missing four tests is apparently forgivable. It seems pretty clear that Coleman screwed up, he was on a tightrope and threw away the safety net. I haven't yet seen a single professional athlete defend him.

I also can't see the argument that he needs to be at the Olympics as he's the sport's "biggest star". That's nonsense. He has zero name recognition outside the US and not much inside. If anything, if he competes and wins next year it will have a negative effect on the sport. His whereabouts failures will benow be attached to his name, you can't discuss Christian Coleman without raising the matter of his missed tests. Even before his career has really started he is tainted. Better he doesn't compete and the 100m title goes to an athlete that doesn't have any controversy attached (yet). The sport needs another Usain Bolt, not another Justin Gatlin

The SPT Podcast had just done a discussion on Nasser when this news broke

Seems modern "stars" at the top are just rude, negligent and frankly abhorrent. Both Nasser and Coleman should be given the full 2 years available so they miss the olympics at least

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whereabouts-failures-world-400m-champion-naser-provisionally/id1513853437?i=1000477922023

TrackCoach wrote:I'm pretty certain Coleman is clean.

You seem to think that of pretty much all Americans, including even Gatlin (aside from one slip) and Wilson.

TrackCoach wrote:

Btw, I would also call into question his family, friends, coaches, agent and sponsor because when you are the fastest man in the world, after missing (2) test, there should have been an all hands on deck to insure he didn't miss another one or basically to save Coleman from himself.

That would only be logical if he didn't miss these (now four!) tests on purpose.

More likely, he might have to cut back on the dosages so that he doesn't have to keep dodging tests anymore. But that would hurt his chances for Gold, so...

I hope he gets the full four years, but two years are the most likely outcome.

I don't think its the missed tests that is bothering most people (although of course that is a huge issue for a "professional") its the attitude!!

bad percentage calculation wrote:

Swerving wrote:

Since early 2001, when the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency’s whereabouts system began, there have been 21 whereabouts sanctions out of 175,000 completed tests. That’s 0.00012%.

No, that is definitely not 0.00012%. It is 0.012%.

How many tests does Coleman get a year, 30? With the odds of 21/175,000, the chance of three missed tests randomly happening to the same person would be tiny!

30C3*(21/175,000)^3 * (174,989/175,000)^27= 6.99 x 10^-9– that’s basically 1 in 140,000,000. Even if he got tested 100 times, that’s still 1 in 3,590,000 chance of happening randomly.

That convinces me, sadly, that he should be out. Too many excuses when this can’t just be excused as bad luck. And that’s not even counting the test he had thrown out on a technicality.