Now masks may protect the wearer. They lied before More lies now?

zzzz wrote:

they were taught in school that masks prevent spread of respiratory diseases. The first guy in the video mentioned the Spanish Flu. Others mentioned preventing spread of colds and flus, and wearing them more in the winter during cold/flu season. One guy was shocked when told that Westerners don't wear masks when they have a cold.

They need to watch this video.

drths wrote:

"Watch the youtube video in the second post in this thread"

I believe masks offer some protection, both ways however just because there's a video on a subject doesn't mean that it's true. Even the best produced video can be nonsense.

Their responses show that they were taught this in health class in school. It's not nonsense, it's widely known in Asia, and has been literally studied (in scientific papers) for a century. It's not put into school curriculum based on superstition or politics. Don't believe that the US holds the key to scientific information. Other countries do things based on science. During this pandemic, Asian countries clearly lead the way, showing they know what they are doing.

Professor Kim Woo-Joo of Korea University Guro Hospital is the top expert in South Korea and the rapid response team leader for Korea during previous outbreaks. He was saying at the beginning of this that masks were already proven in studies from previous epidemics, such as SARS in 2003 and MERS in 2015. He criticized the US Surgeon General and WHO for begin wrong about masks considering the volume of studies that backed mask usage during respiratory outbreaks even before this current pandemic.

I'm a scientist, so I saw right through the BS from US experts early on. I tuned out the CDC pretty much right away. I've been watching what Asian countries have been doing, and what the Asian experts have been saying, as well and digging into the scientific literature at times to inform myself.

dunes runner wrote:

zzzz wrote:

they were taught in school that masks prevent spread of respiratory diseases. The first guy in the video mentioned the Spanish Flu. Others mentioned preventing spread of colds and flus, and wearing them more in the winter during cold/flu season. One guy was shocked when told that Westerners don't wear masks when they have a cold.

They need to watch this video.

Knock it off with the false conspiracy theories.

I wasn't doubting that particular video. I believe the benefits of masks.

Recently someone told me to watch a video about a conspiracy theory. I said "That's not true". The person, who is "educated" (thank you government for compulsory education) says "No. It's a video. It must be true!". So then I say "Anyone can make a video." That didn't change his mind.

drths wrote:

Now they are saying masks may protect the wearer. They said this is new finding. I don't believe they didn't know this before, even it's if it's true. Is this more lies? They tell us this to wear masks to protect others (which is a good thing!) but lie that it may protect us, too? If so revolution now! Even if not revolution now!

Just for future reference, the subject of your complaint is vague.

Who are "they"? What exactly did they say, then and now? Can you provide a direct link?

What I recall back in March-April timeframe were statements from Fauci like (paraphrased) "leaky masks from the drug store don't do much to protect the wearer", while saying masks should be worn by the infected to reduce the spread, and medical grade and N95 masks should be reserved for medical workers. It was about that time that they discovered virus being exhaled simply from talking, and started recommending non-medical masks and cloth face coverings for all, in addition to social distancing.

Most countries practiced social distancing, combined with wearing masks, bandanas, and neck warmers, to get the spread of new cases down to a level manageable by hospitals. This has been generally proven to work, and countries generally re-opened (in phases) after about a month.

One country has tried to politicize this and its leaders and its people challenge, or circumvent, or ignore, these time proven recommendations, using seeming contradictions arising from evolving knowledge as we learn more about the nature of the virus, and the spread of the virus, to fuel a conspiracy that "they" are lying to us. This approach has been shown to be ineffective and counter-productive at containing the spread of the virus.

Wearing a mask doesn’t protect anyone, it is a psychological issue, like the yellow star the Nazis put on the Jews. It is a badge meant to tell you that you are a slave. Health wise- wearing a mask causes damage- instead of inhaling fresh air you inhale the same toxins you just exhaled. We are not meant to breath this way. So better take it off. Furthermore, there is no reason to do anything because corona is nothing but a weakened common cold if it even exists. And don’t start quoting those fake media numbers

The media is losing it's mind over infections, when the only real numbers that matter are deaths and the deaths are down.... way down. Lots of people testing + for it now could have had this back in Feb but were never tested, they thought it was just the flu and went on about their business.

People wore cloth masks during the Spanish Flu and it didn't help at all. They didn't even know what a virus was back then, so at least they had an excuse.

dunes runner wrote:

Asians wear masks to protect from pollen and air pollution, not an invisible virus that's never been proven to exist. There has never been a valid test developed to prove that the invisible so called covid19 virus exists. Therefore, there is also never been a valid test developed to test if anyone has a covid19 virus or if anyone has died from one, which is highly unlikely.

And if the virus is real the wearing of masks by the people of Wuhan didn't do a damn bit of good where this whole thing supposedly broke out. Wuhan is one of the worst cities in the world for toxic air pollution - everyone wears masks over there 24/7. Running outside is ill-advised even with a mask (more like a gas mask would work).

The virus might be real but it's been around a lot longer that what China led us to believe:

There's just way too many asymptomatic/very mild cases, not just with young people but older people as well (e.g, George Stephanopoulos, Sean Payton, Rand Paul, Tom Rice, Jackson Browne, etc - all over 55).

Virtually everyone going to the hospital are old with preexisting conditions (hypertension, diabetes, heart disease, chronic lung pathologies, obesity, etc), and even younger ones that need hospitalization also have preexisting conditions. 90% of all patients hospitalized for COVIID-19 have at least one preexisting condition! Many of these people were in and out of hospitals in the months & years prior to the coronavirus breakout. They're sick with multiple-medical conditions, they're on toxic drugs for thier condition. Many were already suffering complications from thier conditions and the toxic drugs they're on.

And who wins here? The medical cartel will reap in BILLIONS on this! The prize-winning pharma company that gets to roll out the first vaccine, as many frightened people will be begging for the shot, will make out with a big payday!

☝️ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE $$$$$$$$.