Mondo Hondo wrote:
Dan Kahneman. wrote:
Before I saw the video, I assumed it was some guy in the background that would be hard to see or hear.
Not the case, one can't miss hearing or seeing him.
It was purposeful by Trump.
Highly unlikely it was purposeful, unless he was trying to commit political suicide. I'll bet if you thought about it for 15-30 seconds you could figure out a more reasonable explanation of why Trump tweeted a video with a guy shouting "white power."
+1
whisperwind wrote:
An article from NYT said people from his campaign stated he didn't hear the white power comment and he only retweeted it because he saw the support from the Trump 2020 flag. Is that reasonable? I don't know about that...
That would be my guess. He probably did what so many do on Facebook and simply posted without viewing/reading.
If Trump retweeting a video of a supporter of his shouting "White Power" with a caption isn't enough to convince he's racist...
Give me a reason to support Trump that isn't "socialism bad"
Steve Martin wrote:
Mondo Hondo wrote:
Highly unlikely it was purposeful, unless he was trying to commit political suicide. I'll bet if you thought about it for 15-30 seconds you could figure out a more reasonable explanation of why Trump tweeted a video with a guy shouting "white power."
+1
No it was purposeful and fits right into his culture wars pitch to turn the election around. Of course if he were to admit it was purposeful that would be political suicide. But he plays the game of getting the message out and then denying it was on purpose.
If that was a mistake, tell me, did Trump condemn the movement or say anything negative about it?
You guys do realize that Trump does not pen all of his own tweets, right? Most govt officials do not write all of their own tweets; their staff writes them. No one will ever know if he posted the white power tweet, or if it was a member of his staff, or if they meant what they tweeted etc.
breit leit wrote:
Mondo Hondo wrote:
What theory are you rolling with as to why Trump posted that to "millions and millions of people"?
Incompetence.
Never thought I would see the day a leftist would admit to incompetence, but I guess I was wrong.
VAboi wrote:
The funny thing is, while Trump has fomented so much of the divisiveness that exists in the country surrounding race and the penal system, Joe Biden actually undergirded it.
Without Joe Biden’s idiotic “tough on crime” push in the early 1990s which allowed for bipartisan support of crime legislation, who knows how far ahead this country would be on race relations. Who knows how many black fathers wouldn’t have been separated by their families for life because of nonviolent drug crimes thanks to provisions like the “three strikes rule” in the 1994 crime bill. Who knows how many black people’s lives have been thrown away because of Joe Biden. You could say that his apology for this bill is unsatisfying considering its effects are still in place...
If you want your vote to be a symbolic stand against racism, voting for Joe Biden might be the dumbest thing you could possibly do.
The initial premise is false, but the rest is correct
Steve Martin wrote:
breit leit wrote:
Incompetence.
Never thought I would see the day a leftist would admit to incompetence, but I guess I was wrong.
Good one.
welp wrote:
I'm not suggesting things like affirmative action. That's an "over-tilt", an over compensation. But to get true equality, those that have benefited from a one-sided system are going to have to start losing some of those advantages. It's gonna sting, but its necessary to achieve the true equality you are talking about.
What solutions are you suggesting?
Armstronglivs wrote:
VAboi wrote:
True they don’t, and Biden has apologized for what he did even though harmless black people are currently being put in prison because of the legislation he created. I guess a President who apologizes for robbing black men of their livelihoods is better than one who won’t...
... Or that there is no equivalence between Trump and Biden on race, unless you are arguing that black people are too dumb to spot the difference.
I’m not arguing that, you just leapt to that assumption. From the standpoint of black people who want the most change possible NOW, it actually may make a great deal of sense to vote for Biden as he will not push back against reforms because—like Hillary on gay marriage—he has been dragged reluctantly with the party on the issue of criminal justice. It’s actually pretty funny to read his criminal justice statement on his website; he is trying to put out a fire which he proudly helped create in the 1990s. Anyway, I am a pragmatist and totally resonate with someone who wants to vote Biden for policy and not moral reasons.
But, in terms of who of the two candidates has done more real damage to the black community, I would say Biden and it’s not even close. Real people have lost their lives to the prison system because of the three strikes rule in Biden’s bill. And that’s a damn shame
Even if we totally ignore Trump’s past racist statements and acts....after the “White Power” retweet, this past weekends 4th of July speech and this morning’s attack on Bubba Wallace....IS THERE ANY DOUBT THAT 45 IS FANNING THE FLAMES OF RACIAL DIVISION IN THIS COUNTRY??? It’s undeniable. If you support Donald Trump...You support a racist. Plain and simple!!!
Natt Turner wrote:
Even if we totally ignore Trump’s past racist statements and acts....after the “White Power” retweet, this past weekends 4th of July speech and this morning’s attack on Bubba Wallace....IS THERE ANY DOUBT THAT 45 IS FANNING THE FLAMES OF RACIAL DIVISION IN THIS COUNTRY??? It’s undeniable. If you support Donald Trump...You support a racist. Plain and simple!!!
Not really, bottroll
Steve Martin wrote:
whisperwind wrote:
An article from NYT said people from his campaign stated he didn't hear the white power comment and he only retweeted it because he saw the support from the Trump 2020 flag. Is that reasonable? I don't know about that...
That would be my guess. He probably did what so many do on Facebook and simply posted without viewing/reading.
The WH has stated the Trump's tweets are official communications. So are you suggesting that that the POTUS sent out a communication to 80+ million followers without even viewing or reading it?
Trump is the most overtly racist president in 100 years or so. You can't deny that. What an ass. And if you support him, indeed you are supporting a racist.
I'd like to know which of you fat slob trolls were in Bloomington, IN this weekend:
right up the letsrun troll alley, and I'm sure a couple of you were part of this or would be
ElRunner wrote:
You guys do realize that Trump does not pen all of his own tweets, right? Most govt officials do not write all of their own tweets; their staff writes them. No one will ever know if he posted the white power tweet, or if it was a member of his staff, or if they meant what they tweeted etc.
Why did it take over three hours for the tweet to get deleted?
shark jumped wrote:
Voting for Trump is voting for White Supremacy.
I am white
seen plenty of videos of blacks saying "black power"
I am proud of my European heritage: we built the western world
I don't hate any other race because of that
whats the issue?
Most of us would be terminated from our job for posting that video. It really doesn't matter if it was posted intentionally or not. Trump is responsible for the content in his tweets, like everyone else. Otherwise you are implying that no matter how offensive the tweet he can just say he sent it out by accident or he didn't read it first.
Bullet_Proof wrote:
My interpretation was that the old guy in the golf cart was mouthing that phrase to get a rise out of the other protesters.
I thought the dude in the cart was (in a rearview mirror poor attempt at humor) making fun of a guy who was calling him a white supremacist for wearing a em ay gee aye hat / promoting Trump. I could be wrong. It just seemed like someone called him a racist or white supremacist and he was dismissively doing the 'whatever, sure, white power' thing. It seems like the video is gone now so I can't even verify that, but thats what it seemed like when I watched it.
As a weird aside, I couldn't post the m a g a letters all together with a warning "Please stop posting *M AG A in all of your posts. It's not the point of the boards". To my knowledge I've never posted that phrase.
Poster #128 wrote:
Bullet_Proof wrote:
My interpretation was that the old guy in the golf cart was mouthing that phrase to get a rise out of the other protesters.
I thought the dude in the cart was (in a rearview mirror poor attempt at humor) making fun of a guy who was calling him a white supremacist for wearing a em ay gee aye hat / promoting Trump. I could be wrong. It just seemed like someone called him a racist or white supremacist and he was dismissively doing the 'whatever, sure, white power' thing. It seems like the video is gone now so I can't even verify that, but thats what it seemed like when I watched it.
As a weird aside, I couldn't post the m a g a letters all together with a warning "Please stop posting *M AG A in all of your posts. It's not the point of the boards". To my knowledge I've never posted that phrase.
vote for joe biden 2020
can confirm i got the same message about em ay gee ay
if this posts it’s proof of ideologically motivated censorship
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