Has Trump Jumped the Shark?!? Posts "White Power" video on twitter

shark jumped wrote:

Mondo Hondo wrote:

I haven't really set forth a theory, much less twisted anything to support one. I merely said that there may be more reasonable explanations for Trump tweeting a "white power" video other than he decided to do it deliberately. I'm still betting you could list at least 2 other explanations for that tweet by Trump, other than the one you claim to be 100% convinced about.

Your defense of it was basically, "there's no way he's dumb enough to tweet that on purpose".....but every alternate explanation would require him to be extremely dumb. Take your pick.

No, that's not true. You know what the reasonable alternative explanations are, even though you can't bring yourself to even mention them, and neither would require a person to be "extremely dumb." You're aware of that.

whisperwind wrote:

An article from NYT said people from his campaign stated he didn't hear the white power comment and he only retweeted it because he saw the support from the Trump 2020 flag. Is that reasonable? I don't know about that...

That's BS. What else are they going to say? Trump most certainly saw the white power comment. People can argue whether or not Trump is a racist or a white supremacist but it's not even relevant. He does know that there are white supremacists within his base and the video lets them know that he is still with them. Note: I am not saying most of his base is in this group.

So he leaves it up until Tim Scott goes on CNN and says it should be taken off. Now the WH and his supporters can claim he didn't know about that part of the video and it was all just a mistake. Mission accomplished!

And of course Republican leadership will just avoid commenting at all. When asked they will say: "I haven't seen the video", "I don't want to have to keep commenting on Trumps tweets when we have serious issues to address", "It's not a video I would have posted", blah, blah, blah...change the subject. Trump plays the Republican Party leadership like a fiddle and they just go meekly along.

Yes we all know this is true, even moderate Republicans acknowledge it.

Possible explanations:

1) Trump didn't watch the video. He just saw a video that was labeled as being a golf-cart parade in his honor and he re-tweeted it without watching it.

2) Or he watched it but had it muted or the volume down, so he didn't hear what was said. (Doesn't twitter on some platforms auto-play videos as you scroll through the timelime but the sound is muted unless you unmute it? If so, then this is by far the most likely explanation.)

3) He's ignorant enough that he didn't realize that someone saying "white power" was bad.

4) He decided that now was the time to come out of the closet and openly declare himself a racist. But then he changed his mind and decided to try to go back in the closet.

5) He was sending a racist dog-wh... I mean he somehow knew what a dog-whistle is without understanding that it's supposed to be subtle (not sure how that's possible), so he used an air-horn in place of a dog-whistle to signal his racism to the the racists. Then after leaving it up long enough to make sure everyone saw it, he deleted it so that he could claim that he didn't mean it and isn't racist.

And there is this interview when he was a candidate early in 2016.

Mondo Hondo wrote:

shark jumped wrote:

Your defense of it was basically, "there's no way he's dumb enough to tweet that on purpose".....but every alternate explanation would require him to be extremely dumb. Take your pick.

No, that's not true. You know what the reasonable alternative explanations are, even though you can't bring yourself to even mention them, and neither would require a person to be "extremely dumb." You're aware of that.

You obviously know that any explanation you could offer is so weak it will torn to shreds so you are scared to post them. That much is obvious to everyone.

shark jumped wrote:

Mondo Hondo wrote:

No, that's not true. You know what the reasonable alternative explanations are, even though you can't bring yourself to even mention them, and neither would require a person to be "extremely dumb." You're aware of that.

You obviously know that any explanation you could offer is so weak it will torn to shreds so you are scared to post them. That much is obvious to everyone.

That's not true either. You can pretend all night, and you seem intent on doing so, but you are well aware of the alternative and reasonable explanation for why Trump tweeted that video, and you know that neither can be "torn to shreds." You're the one scared to post them, almost like admitting they exist will throw water on your own rhetoric. That much is obvious to everyone.

shark jumped wrote:

much ado about everything wrote:

So the question now is would you rather have an arrogant racist or an arrogant racist who is senile?

I'd rather have the one that didn't just tweet a "White Power" video.

There's no way to rationalize this.

Voting for Trump is voting for White Supremacy.

Voting for Biden is also voting for White Supremacy.

Decades ago, he stated he didn't want his children to "grow up in a racial jungle." Less further back, he described then-rival-candidate Obama as the "first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." Months ago, he stated that if you don't vote for him as a black person, "you ain't black."

Sorry, but it's cut-and-dry. Both candidates are racists and both are pathetic for our country.

Careful. At least one of the obtuse-as-a-way-of-life crowd thinks those can be "torn to shreds."

I'd add (1)(a) as a subset of (1) above - he re-tweeted the wrong video; got confused among the many he must watch all day, and selected the "white power" one thinking it was a different one.

Mondo Hondo wrote:

shark jumped wrote:

You obviously know that any explanation you could offer is so weak it will torn to shreds so you are scared to post them. That much is obvious to everyone.

That's not true either. You can pretend all night, and you seem intent on doing so, but you are well aware of the alternative and reasonable explanation for why Trump tweeted that video, and you know that neither can be "torn to shreds." You're the one scared to post them, almost like admitting they exist will throw water on your own rhetoric. That much is obvious to everyone.

ok cowboy, time to put-up or shut-up. post or STFU.

LOLOLOLOL. .......THAT's your play?????? HAHAHAHAHAH

It's like you just slammed down an unsuited 2 and 4 and shouted "ROYAL FLUSH!"

semsurrrrrrrr wrote:

Mondo Hondo wrote:

I haven't really set forth a theory, much less twisted anything to support one. I merely said that there may be more reasonable explanations for Trump tweeting a "white power" video other than he decided to do it deliberately. I'm still betting you could list at least 2 other explanations for that tweet by Trump, other than the one you claim to be 100% convinced about.

Now kindly save us from your nonsense.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-tweet-black-white-crime-alabama-hurricane-dorian-racist-a9095051.htmlhttps://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/23/9782824/donald-trump-black-on-black-crimehttps://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr/article216495165.html

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shark jumped wrote:

much ado about everything wrote:

So the question now is would you rather have an arrogant racist or an arrogant racist who is senile?

I'd rather have the one that didn't just tweet a "White Power" video.

There's no way to rationalize this.

Voting for Trump is voting for White Supremacy.

Yes, it's way better to have the whole left now screaming "black power!"

Less further back ?

More recently?

shark jumped wrote:

Mondo Hondo wrote:

Careful. At least one of the obtuse-as-a-way-of-life crowd thinks those can be "torn to shreds."

I'd add (1)(a) as a subset of (1) above - he re-tweeted the wrong video; got confused among the many he must watch all day, and selected the "white power" one thinking it was a different one.

LOLOLOLOL. .......THAT's your play?????? HAHAHAHAHAH

It's like you just slammed down an unsuited 2 and 4 and shouted "ROYAL FLUSH!"

It was more a poster named JjisaB's play. I just added a bit.

And wow, you'll really tore it to shreds. Whenever I see someone post LOL on the internet, I know I've been shut down hard.

semsurrrrrrrr wrote:

Mondo Hondo wrote:

I haven't really set forth a theory, much less twisted anything to support one. I merely said that there may be more reasonable explanations for Trump tweeting a "white power" video other than he decided to do it deliberately. I'm still betting you could list at least 2 other explanations for that tweet by Trump, other than the one you claim to be 100% convinced about.

Now kindly save us from your nonsense.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-tweet-black-white-crime-alabama-hurricane-dorian-racist-a9095051.htmlhttps://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/23/9782824/donald-trump-black-on-black-crimehttps://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr/article216495165.html

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Mondo Hondo wrote:

shark jumped wrote:

LOLOLOLOL. .......THAT's your play?????? HAHAHAHAHAH

It's like you just slammed down an unsuited 2 and 4 and shouted "ROYAL FLUSH!"

It was more a poster named JjisaB's play. I just added a bit.

And wow, you'll really tore it to shreds. Whenever I see someone post LOL on the internet, I know I've been shut down hard.

ummmmm......we already covered this.

Any of those explanations would require the President being really really dumb. I mean this ain't your Grandma trying to send an email attachment to her grandson.....this is the President sending out a public tweet read by millions and millions as representative of our country to the entire world.

Making any of the mistakes listed above in this context would require one being extremely dumb.

And your defense of him not possibly doing this on purpose is that he isn't dumb enough to do that.

Like I said......we covered this already.

I watched the whole 2 + min video. It’s hard to hear all of the exchange that goes back and forth in the beginning of the video between the two white men, but it sounds like the Trump hater dude was talking about being white and also calling the Trump lover dude a racist. The only part that is clear is the Trump lover saying “white power” and the Trump hater saying “there you go, white power”. So in the end, two white guys saying white power.

Watching the whole video, my main take away is the awful woman yelling “Fu*k Trump” at each passing golf cart, and the other Trump haters yelling horrible things at their fellow Americans. I mean, really. I have friends and family that voted for Trump, and I would never speak to them like that; it’s awful. Maybe Trump meant to tweet the whole video to show the treatment his supporters endure? I have no idea, but I’m pretty tired of the racist talk. White people calling other white people racist is peak lunacy, imo.