LateRunnerPhil wrote:
TME Hater wrote:
Hunter is clearly very talented. I posted this on another thread and didn’t get a good answer so I’m asking again: why do people think that Tinman is a bad coach?
His training philosophy seems similar to what all the other top coaches are doing. Hunter’s mileage is low. Some people argue he should be doing more. Colleen Quigley and Woody Kincaid are also very injury prone and also run relatively low mileage. So does Justyn Knight and many of the Bosshard athletes.
You don't get it do you? Tinman's guys have almost all been injured lately.
His approach is too hard for the individual runner, Why? Because he just punish the body
with faster work when it already had been right to call it a day.It's a big myth that his system
would be something moderate and sensitive!
And look at yourself when you try to do the multiple workouts, doesn't take long before you get
injured again.
- many people, coaches and runners, think it's necessary to sprint all-out to reach one's potential in the mile or 3k. Tinman does not believe in all-out hill sprints or flat sprints, and caps his speedwork to ~400m pace
- coaches like Magness and Marcus critisized him for his "multi-layered workouts" - where he has stamina work, like threshold and CV in the beginning and then fast 30s hills or 200s at mile/800 pace at the end. They say "you can't recruit all muscle fibers when tired, fast reps should be in the beginning, the neuromuscular stimulus isn't ideal". They aren't wrong, but they don't get the point what Tinman wants to achieve - to run fast and relaxed when already under high fatigue, like at the end of a race.
Now , listen to a real pro! You can't force ability to sprint fast ( and then I mainly mean in the finish of a WC or OG final) at the finish of a race by trying to simulate it when already under high fatigue in training. It must be another way to be perfect.Then there are two points necessary. You must develop individual highest possible sprint ability AND highest possible aerob/ anaerob capacity to cooperate . And that must be done in separate workouts to be done the best way.
- he is kinda known for "training sensibly" in all aspects - lower mileage, only two hard sessions a week, very easy long runs. People somehow think that this isn't enough to make a US champion or Olympic champion, they want to see high mileage, pushing to (and beyond) the limits, crazy long runs, and big sessions like 20x200 in 26 or 20x400 in 59.
Training sensibly is not his hallmark.He thinks so, and you think so, but you are both wrong.
To become a world record holder or Olympic Champion, a workout like 20 x 400m at 59 sec
shouldn't be a big session.
tldr: Tinman is actually a better coach than what people think he is.