Trump losing on every possible polls ?

Runningart2004 wrote:

If you look at the history of presidential polling you can see how bad a position Trump is in right now. Trump supporters will tell you how wrong the 2016 polls were when in reality the polls were 100% accurate when accounting for standard polling error.

No incumbent has been this far back and won reelection. If Trump were younger and less prone to verbal gaffes himself then maybe he would have a better chance. Read the transcripts from any of his rallies....he throws out gibberish that's no better than Biden. Both are near senile.

Alan

No, the polls were not 100% accurate when accounting for standard polling error. You've completely lost any credibility that you may have had with that statement.

Trump won 10 plus states that Clinton was suppose to easily win.

You don't like Trump, fine, you've got that right and you can love Clinton, who cares? But don't make stuff up that is pretty much>>>flat out lying.

hello? JS? wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

If you look at the history of presidential polling you can see how bad a position Trump is in right now. Trump supporters will tell you how wrong the 2016 polls were when in reality the polls were 100% accurate when accounting for standard polling error.

No incumbent has been this far back and won reelection. If Trump were younger and less prone to verbal gaffes himself then maybe he would have a better chance. Read the transcripts from any of his rallies....he throws out gibberish that's no better than Biden. Both are near senile.

Alan

You said you were not coming back to lrc.

Welcome back.

Art is like Flagpole, they both lie and then "make up stuff" to sound as if they are right. Both must be hell to live with.

Concerned Senior wrote:

Our country won't withstand another 4 years of this Sh*t show. History will be very Harsh on Trump and his Cult followers !!!

You sound like you could use a hug.

party like it's 1859 wrote:

Y'all need to wait for the debates. Trump is going to DEVASTATE Biden. No contest.

"Disinfectant, Premier Xi is doing a great job, I called it a pandemic before anyone did, what pandemic, less testing - I'm not joking, more Confederate statues" etc. Yeah, the debates will be great. I can't wait.

Piano_Man87 wrote:

Honest question: Has Trump actually done anything to help Americans?

It seems he just attacks the people that his supporters also don't like. It earns him their kudos, but doesn't seem to actually help their lives in any tangible way.

Yes, he has helped Americans. He has revealed the human ordure that is the Republican party. The septic tank will be emptied in November.

Didn't 538 give Trump like a 20-30% chance to win? That's like making a contested 3-pointer... not exactly the rarest thing ever

I don't really care who is president , the president thing has jumped the shark.

Every day people who are very partisan all seem pretty messed up too .

glimpse of a possible future wrote:

everyone says the polls were wrong in 2016. I don’t necessarily agree. There were likely correct at the time they were taken, but I think sentiment shifted towards Trump in the last day or two and the polls were not timely enough to capture that trend.

Why were they "likely" correct? They might have been, but without evidence of this sudden shift in public opinion, one can't call it likely.

Rasmussen was only 1 point off.

Harambe wrote:

Didn't 538 give Trump like a 20-30% chance to win? That's like making a contested 3-pointer... not exactly the rarest thing ever

Is any prediction that isn't 100%-0% worth anything at all?

Trump2024 wrote:Not sure if it's just leftist media propaganda. But all the polls I'm seeing today show him losing by a wide margin to Biden, and both on the popular and electoral vote.

What do you think ? Was it the same in 2016 ?

Hillary was winning in almost every poll. All that matters is what happens on Nov. 3rd. US voting public has very short memories. Everything that is going on right now will be forgotten in November and Trump will win again. Biden is poor at debates. Trump will roast him in every debate they have. Now debating isn't actually a skill set you need as much after becoming President as you meet in committees of pretty much similar minded people when discussing policy. It's actually a flawed way to judge someone as a policy-maker but that's what is done here. Debates are also good for advertisers, broadcasters, and corporate America which is another reason you have them.

Soon people will start dying in Florida and Texas. Mostly old people.

That will have a huge impact on the elections.

historian is a dumb dumb wrote:

Trump won 10 plus states that Clinton was suppose to easily win.

1) A person who can't seem to understand that the phrase is "supposed to" probably shouldn't introduce a word like "dumb" into the conversation.

This reminds me of the doofus we had a few months back who consistently used "council" when "counsel" was correct; was called out for it; tried to give a (ridiculous) justification for the error; and then insisted on repeating it, as though that would make its use all right. The rest of us enjoyed a hearty laugh at his/her expense.

2) Please be so kind as to list just ten of those states that HRC was "suppose to" win EASILY and did not.

Shucks, just list six.

Otherwise your "statistic" is just made up.

. . . Though that does seem to be par for the course for this administration and its supporters.

Corona expert wrote:

Soon people will start dying in Florida and Texas. Mostly old people.

That will have a huge impact on the elections.

I'm fairly sure that some will die, but I doubt that very many will, or that it will have much impact on the elections.

The Northeast's deaths and lockdowns bought time for most of the rest of the country, and the medical community put that time to good use. Treatment of COVID-19, even severe cases, has much improved and deaths are less frequent as a result.

Lotsa cases (which can be bad enough!)? Yes. Lotsa deaths? I don't think so. I certainly hope not, anyway.

pnis club wrote:

Is any prediction that isn't 100%-0% worth anything at all?

A 20-30% chance is not a "prediction" at all, and people on here keep persistently misconstruing what a statement of odds is.

As a matter of fact, very few things in the real world are literally "100%-0%" likely.

kibitzer wrote:

Lotsa cases (which can be bad enough!)? Yes. Lotsa deaths? I don't think so. I certainly hope not, anyway.

Young people will get the Corona virus and don't even feel it. In the meanwhile they infect a lot of others. Some of them are older, especially in Florida, the retirement paradise. These people will die.

Hope is not a good strategy right now.

Wear a mask and wash your hands.

First and foremost, you must live alone and have a sad life with zero "real" friends. Whoever would marry you must be as dense as you are.

Pointing out that someone typed a word wrong on a forum says more about you than it does the person who did it (we both know that this can't be your first time).

I'd bet the farm that you've done it more times than you'd admit to, but...there are only so many insecure a$$es like you on forums who need to feel "smart" for pointing out a misspelled word, so unfortunately you weren't there to call yourself out...did I lose ya there?

As for HRC and her states, you aren't worth linking it to as you'd still deny it. The election was suppose to be a landslide victory for her and it was called that by many sources, not just a few. You don't win an election in "Landslide" and not be projected to easily win 6 out of 50 states. Take a deep breath and think about that sentence. I'd say to phone a friend, but...

Even your small brain should have enough recall for that. Bottom line, you live a sad life with no friends and you're still upset that HRC didn't win her Landslide Election in 2016. My advice, get a life, buy friends if you have to, but get a life before your old body says enough.

:):):):):):):):):) Those are laughing faces, just in case you're too old to know;)

I voted Hillary, but did it more as a vote against Trump. Did not like or trust her, but felt Donald was the greater of two evils. I had several Left-leaning work colleagues who did not vote because Hillary didn’t inspire them and the polls had Trump so far behind that their votes weren’t needed. As one said “I thought Trump was done for already so I didn’t want to waste my time and vote.” She has since openly regretted that decision and promises to vote in November. I think many middle to left leaning Americans have learned their lesson.

He was losing in 2016 a month before the polls. And then...

So, let's be careful.