Scars of Covid-19 could last for life as doctors warn of long-term damage to health

whatabouttheflu wrote:

Really why is it worth mentioning? Other diseases have potential long term damaging effects as well.

Because the liberals who run the media need to scare as many people into compliance as they can. I can't think of a single time in my life where anecdotal health stories serve as the prevailing representation of a public health issue. Very little is out in the news about the vast majority of people who get this and recover, all while experiencing minor symptoms. Very little about the vast majority of the deaths coming from patients who were 80 + years old and had comorbidities. At first I thought the narrative was crafted so as to respect the feelings of those with serious COVID-19 symptoms or those who have lost loved ones during this pandemic, but now I think it's primarily about fear mongering as a vehicle for gaining political advantage.

Oh boy. The "other diseases cause things" logic is really a new low. How many existing diseases cause one of the largest medical centers in the world to divert adult patients to the children's hospital because ICU capacity is almost used up? And how many new zoonic viruses do you want before you admit that it is a bad thing to have a highly infectious virus that has a very high hospital rate in addition to every other existing virus? I do not recall anyone saying that it would be cool to have the flu 2.0 IN ADDITION TO the flu.

Sorry, clowns. But your time is up. Your clown prince Trumpy is now the laughing stock of the world for letting the virus run rampant across the US while Europe and other countries have very efficiently gained control over the virus. And if you think that the US is at some sort of advantage by letting the virus run rampant while people are still able to eat at BW3s? Well, it will probably end up being a significant economic disadvantage. The EU is probably going to keep a travel ban in place against the US as it emerges from a very successful campaign to control the virus.

And if you aren't keeping score, you probably won't want to. The EU, with over 100 mil more people, has seen its positive daily case load decline rapidly to about 5,000 new cases a day as many countries are slowly reopening without seeing big spikes in cases. The US has reversed the declines in case load that it saw through May and is now seeing 30k+ new cases a day with big surges in southern states that reopened way too early.

The EU and other nations that did the hard work to get the virus under control will be big winners economically over the US as we descend into corona virus chaos with southern Governors refusing to implement new lockdowns as the virus runs rampant over the south.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2020/06/23/texas-childrens-hospital-starts-admitting-adult-patients-as-coronavirus-cases-in-the-state-soar-to-record-levels/

https://dnyuz.com/2020/06/23/eu-may-ban-travel-from-us-as-it-reopens-borders-citing-coronavirus-failures/

You could not be more right about the media...and you could not be wrong about the dangers of this virus. What people are missing is that the media is right by accident.

Meanwhile vaping, cigarette smoking by the carton continue. Another fine turd of journalistic integrity.

Going to doctors can scar you for life. Stay away from doctors!

dunes runner wrote:

Going to doctors can scar you for life. Stay away from doctors!

Medical mistakes kill as many as 425,000 Americans per year per a John Hopkins study.

Giles Corey wrote:

dunes runner wrote:

Going to doctors can scar you for life. Stay away from doctors!

Medical mistakes kill as many as 425,000 Americans per year per a John Hopkins study.

I do find it funny that you quote this study endlessly but then also yammer on about "dying with" as opposed to "dying of" Covid. Your complaints about the methodology of Covid death reporting are the exact same as the complaints directed at the JH study.

There is a big difference between talking about individual outcomes and public health outcomes. Calling articles like this fear-mongering does not mean I don't see Covid-19 as a major public health issue.

Sensationalism and heart-wrenching anecdotal stories are the bread-and-butter of the 24/7 news industry. They wan't people to be afraid, outraged, and aghast as this keeps people glued to their screens.

Covid-19 is a big deal, but there is no need to make people more afraid than they need to be.

a little caution young ones wrote:

This thing is nasty, it came out of a lab, probably by mistake. Pray for a vaccine.

NO, IT DIDN'T. Damn, how long are people going to hold on to that canard?

p. n. wrote:

a little caution young ones wrote:

This thing is nasty, it came out of a lab, probably by mistake. Pray for a vaccine.

NO, IT DIDN'T. Damn, how long are people going to hold on to that canard?

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-not-human-made-in-lab.html

There is a chance no matter how big or small. Note the scientists said “unlikely” not, “impossible, never could happen”.

the Spanish flu infected 1/3 of the worlds population. (doubtful if there was the 80% asymptomatic cases that COVID owns... pretty sure everyone that had the spanish flu knew they had the spanish flu ... not allergies or a cold)

The Spanish flu killed (not fake covid deaths but legit deaths 20-50 million people)

Shut it down Precious. I'm getting embarrassed for you at this point

unlikely wrote:

p. n. wrote:

NO, IT DIDN'T. Damn, how long are people going to hold on to that canard?

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-not-human-made-in-lab.html

There is a chance no matter how big or small. Note the scientists said “unlikely” not, “impossible, never could happen”.

☝️ A French virologist and medicine Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier said it was created in a lab in an attempt to develop an AIDS vaccine:

lmao you statist doomers never stop moving the goalposts. First this had a 5% death rate, then it was coming for the kids with Kawasakis, now it causes "permanent damage." Tell ya what, anyone worried can stay inside and continue the endless Netflix binge; let the rest of us live our lives.

In flu enza AKA the Spanish Flu - How 50 million people died in 2018L

Go to 7:00 to skip the introduction.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/99ZX4vva3of0/

coach wrote:

"Could" cause permanent lung damage. Scarlet fever and strep can cause heart disease

My grandfather caught strep on a transport ship home from Europe after WW2. Caused a heart murmur. He died in November 2019 at age 97. Watch out for those nasty COVID side effects!!!

dunes runner wrote:

In flu enza AKA the Spanish Flu - How 50 million people died in 2018L

Go to 7:00 to skip the introduction.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/99ZX4vva3of0/

And let this be a warning to you young folks out there. This ^ is what can happen to you when you do drugs.

bitchute?

Infowars?

What's next?

Seriously folks - stay away from drugs!

wtfbbq wrote:

I had it. Mid 30s male, excellent shape. Took over two weeks to get over.

I’m STILL not running at the pace I used to run pre-COVID and that was 3 months ago. Idk if I have any ‘lasting damage’ or anything, I feel fine, but I’m still about 45 seconds to a minute slower than my old pace. Not sure what’s up.

This is what really scares me about COVID. I'm seeing lots of anecdotal stories of people who haven't recovered to normal even though it's been weeks since their infection. These long term side effects seem to be respiratory and energy/fatigue related and they ARE NOT RECEIVING any significant media coverage. To me, this is a bigger story than COVID killing 80-year-olds. It's ruining the health of otherwise healthy young people. Not all of them, but enough to be concerned that I might be one of the unlucky ones.

If you're a competitive athlete, you can't afford to lose even 10% of your respiratory function. Sure, you might still be able to run, but you might never recover to your previous level of competition. I suffered lung damage last June from breathing toxic fumes. It took me four months to get back my normal breathing and then another 3 months to get back to where I was before my exposure. There were times I worried that I would never fully recover. (In truth, I really never quite fully recovered. I feel out of breath at odd times, but it's not my major limiting performance factor now. ) IT IS REALLY SCARY THINKING YOU MIGHT NEVER BE ABLE TO JOG 200M AGAIN WITHOUT RUNNING OUT OF BREATH. I never want to go through that again.

Keep in mind, right now, we have NO IDEA what the long term effects of this disease might be on competitive athletes. Worse, doctors have NO IDEA of how to prevent mild cases from becoming severe cases.

I really don't care what others think. I'll wear my mask when shopping and severely limit my exposure to other humans until we get a better understanding on how to make this no worse than a case of the flu with no long term effects.

^Completely agree.

This is not fear mongering. This is not baseless. No, it's not just the same as other disease. COVID is an incredibly potent attacker of the lungs, it is incredibly infectious and is a new virus. It's always worse to get new infections as an adult.

Correct, this is also what scares me as an athlete.

A doctor can think that you have "fully recovered" when there are only undetectable minor scars in your lungs, yet, this may mean running 60 seconds per mile slower. Sure, you can have perfectly happy, normal and long life even if your 5K time went from 15 to 18 minutes; but, from an athlete perspective, it sucks big time.