Scars of Covid-19 could last for life as doctors warn of long-term damage to health

Really why is it worth mentioning? Other diseases have potential long term damaging effects as well.

Holy Moly wrote:

Including permanent damage to lungs.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/22/revealed-scars-covid-19-could-last-life-doctors-warn-long-term/

Anyway, it looks like we'll soon have a case example of an elite athlete catching the virus, so it will be interesting to see if Djokovic's career is over or if he returns the same.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/novak-djokovic-s-fitness-coach-marco-panichi-tests-positive-covid-19

Yeah, and life causes death.

Know anyone who has had permanent damage due to Covid?

Giles Corey wrote:

Know anyone who has had permanent damage due to Covid?

I don't.

I know two people who caught it, one recovered at home in two days and the other, a very sick person aged 67, recovered in 5 days in hospital.

Both were left with no permanent damage.

"Could" cause permanent lung damage. Scarlet fever and strep can cause heart disease

Let's keep the fear mongering going.

Now hurry and find the three people on the planet that this happened to and highlight the crap out of it and bash people over the head with those dramatized stories.

And then we'll find two of the three never had what they said and the other one already had an underlying condition.

whatabouttheflu wrote:

Really why is it worth mentioning? Other diseases have potential long term damaging effects as well.

It's worth mentioning because some people seem to be under the impression that, as long as you don't die from it, you'll automatically be completely back to normal after a bout with COVID-19. That's not true for everyone.

BTW you're right about other diseases sometimes doing long term damage. The flu did that to me.

What are you rambling about with elite athletes.

In my city. 2 players for the Broncos had it including Von Miller and a couple of Colorado Avalanche hockey players had it.

Curious to see if any name runners get it.

I personally know of two women in their 50's. Both were healthy, very active (one a former Olympic caliber swimmer), now with long-term elevated pulse (90-120), can't walk without it heading up to 150. Virus probably attacked their myocardium and might not have been properly diagnosed in time. So yes, scientists are still learning about who is vulnerabe and which organs can be effected. This thing is nasty, it came out of a lab, probably by mistake. Pray for a vaccine.

My doc says I have permanent lung damage from a bout of pneumonia. All respiratory illnesses can cause scar tissue. Hard for me to believe the docs say "permanent" since covid has only been around a few months the idea that there isn't any long term case studies seems like catastrophic thinking. Think twice before getting the vaccine. I got shingles because my doctor highly encouraged me to get the varicella vaccine because I had a mild case of chicken pox when young. Also, look at the Norwegian studies on the H1N1 vaccine that they pulled. They could prove that it was a catalyst for narcolepsy. I didn't believe it either until my sleep doctor actually told me that the vaccine causes narcolepsy. That was the first time I've heard of a medical professional questioning vaccines. I started to do my own research and learned a ton. Be careful friends

Just scare tactics. You could get hit by a meteor too.

Just blind fear denial. You don't walk into a bar or restaurant or grocery store stubbornly repeating to yourself "this dairy isle could kill me with a meteor, but I can't live in fear,,, for the Economy!".

This is what the research is telling us. Believe it or not, up to you

Scare tactics indeed. Take a look at the chart in the link below about halfway down titled "Daily New Deaths in the United States". Deaths have dropped off a cliff since late April, even with states opening up weeks ago, the Ozarks party, protesters and rioters in close proximity, etc. etc. Even though cases are recently up, as shown in another chart in the link below, nearly all of them are sub-clinical, meaning so symptoms or treatment needed. What's going on now, and has been going on for a while is fear-mongering, pure and simple.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Unfortunately for you, responsible people have to look at history. If you want to continue to cover your ears and yell so you can't hear them speak, you're certainly free to do so (or you can listen to guest speaker Dr. Phil for expert Covid19 advice). There's always someone who refuses to follow evacuation orders during a hurricane, or is "okay to drive" after a number of drinks. I pray to everything possible that you're right, and this is all one big overreaction, but that's why I'm glad I don't have to make the hard decisions of playing with people's lives.

"Reported cases of Spanish flu dropped off over the summer of 1918, and there was hope at the beginning of August that the virus had run its course. In retrospect, it was only the calm before the storm. "

https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence

sgare wrote:

Giles Corey wrote:

Know anyone who has had permanent damage due to Covid?

I don't.

I know two people who caught it, one recovered at home in two days and the other, a very sick person aged 67, recovered in 5 days in hospital.

Both were left with no permanent damage.

I had it. Mid 30s male, excellent shape. Took over two weeks to get over.

I’m STILL not running at the pace I used to run pre-COVID and that was 3 months ago. Idk if I have any ‘lasting damage’ or anything, I feel fine, but I’m still about 45 seconds to a minute slower than my old pace. Not sure what’s up.

sgare wrote:

Giles Corey wrote:

Know anyone who has had permanent damage due to Covid?

I don't.

I know two people who caught it, one recovered at home in two days and the other, a very sick person aged 67, recovered in 5 days in hospital.

Both were left with no permanent damage.

Were they athletes, though?

Covid attacks blood vessels, and damages throughout the body. It's easy for microscopic damage to be missed if all a doc does is an x ray and swab to see if you are fine. If all the blood vessels in your lungs and muscles are damaged, you might never be the same athlete you were before. We just don't know yet.

wtfbbq wrote:

sgare wrote:

I don't.

I know two people who caught it, one recovered at home in two days and the other, a very sick person aged 67, recovered in 5 days in hospital.

Both were left with no permanent damage.

I had it. Mid 30s male, excellent shape. Took over two weeks to get over.

I’m STILL not running at the pace I used to run pre-COVID and that was 3 months ago. Idk if I have any ‘lasting damage’ or anything, I feel fine, but I’m still about 45 seconds to a minute slower than my old pace. Not sure what’s up.

You got it in March?

Do you live in NYC ?

If not, you bucked tremendous odds to get sick with Covid in mid to late March in America

Piano_Man87 wrote:

Covid attacks blood vessels, and damages throughout the body. It's easy for microscopic damage to be missed if all a doc does is an x ray and swab to see if you are fine. If all the blood vessels in your lungs and muscles are damaged, you might never be the same athlete you were before. We just don't know yet.

Seems the experts know next to nothing about this "novel" virus.

But they do know it will take a vaccine to fix it and that the vaccine will take 12-18 months

Holy Moly wrote:

. . .

Anyway, it looks like we'll soon have a case example of an elite athlete catching the virus, so it will be interesting to see if Djokovic's career is over or if he returns the same.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/novak-djokovic-s-fitness-coach-marco-panichi-tests-positive-covid-19

Testing positive and getting sick are two different things. I have not read anywhere that Djokovic is sick so I do not yet see any reason to consider his career to be threatened.

Will he return the same? It is not at all obvious that he is going to leave off training and competing in the first place so there is nowhere to return from.