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Bernard Lagat, who spent half of his life as an African and half of his life as an American. 3:48.38 as an American.
Alan Webb
Ozzie wrote:
Bernard Lagat, who spent half of his life as an African and half of his life as an American. 3:48.38 as an American.
Immigrants like Lagat, Lalang, Lomong, King Ches, Chelimo and Mead don't count
US born probably Steve Holman. 3:53.31.
David Krummenacker
800- 1:43.92
1k- 2:15.97
1500- 3:31.93
Mile- 3:54.23
Steve Holman
800- 1:44.98
1500- 3:31.52
Mile- 3:50.40
Donavan Brazier
800- 1:42.34
1500-3:37
? wrote:
US born probably Steve Holman. 3:53.31.
Borrowed time until Nuguse gets better.
I am sure there were very few black African immigrants before 1965 in U.S.. Prior to President L.B.J., U.S. had legal Apartheid. Law enforcement was indifferent at best and participate too often in lynchings of blacks prior to President L.B. J. I cannot imagine blacks in Africa prior to 1965 even considering a vacation in U.S. African-American usually implies one has family roots in U.S, prior to 1965 and most likely prior to 1865 with sub-Saharan black African heritage.
Mel Whitfield had two choices: 1) Do less sprint training, run more miles and chase sub-4 mile;
2) run for his country, earn two 800m gold medals, one 400m bronze, one 4 x 400m gold and one 4 x 400m silver. Training for one mile could have meant Whitfield would have raced sub-4 mile with no Olympic medals like Roger Bannister. It was better for U.S. for Whitfield to be a 400/800 man; it may a have been better for Whitfield to race sub-4 mile before Bannister.
If you immigrate to the US before high school, you’re pretty freaking American
That’s not to say that the others aren’t American, but you know what I mean
South African born Sydney Maree became a US citizen at age 28, pretty sure of that number, and ran 3:48.83 after that.
? wrote:
US born probably Steve Holman. 3:53.31.
Jordan McNamara 3:52.42
Nah, I'd say immigrate before starting primary school. High schoolers have already picked up their own country's customs. Most people would struggle to pick up the new countries' language by that age.
Brazier is the most talented 1500m runner we’ve ever had. Just watch.
Hardloper wrote:
? wrote:
US born probably Steve Holman. 3:53.31.
Jordan McNamara 3:52.42
As mentioned earlier, Holman actually ran 3:50.
Another one slower than those two but pretty quick is Jon Rankin, who ran 3:54.
I think the OP was implying West African heritage, but I don't actually know the background of McNamara, Holman, and Rankin.
It wasn't as bad as you make it out to be. If America was that rotten, then why did Obama's father then come over here to live and study in 1959?
Centro’s mom is black.
Jordan McNamarra
800 Metres 1:47.16 Portland, OR (USA) 15 JUN 2014 1109
1000 Metres 2:21.40 Eugene, OR (USA) 08 MAY 2015 1044
1500 Metres 3:34.00 Oordegem (BEL) 06 JUL 2013 1188
One Mile 3:52.42 Olympic Stadium, London (GBR) 27 JUL 2013
3000 Metres 7:50.48 Liège (BEL) 13 JUL 2011 1112
Two Miles 8:26.50 Alexander Stadium, Birmingham (GBR) 24 AUG 2014
5000 Metres 13:34.64 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 29 APR 2012
10,000 Metres 29:36.33 Eugene, OR (USA) 20 APR 2007
5 Kilometres 13:49 San José, CA (USA) 24 NOV 2011
west africans aren't known for distance running are they?
khorrps wrote:
west africans aren't known for distance running are they?
Generally speaking, no (conventional wisdom is that they excel in sprints and jumps) - and that is why I think he posted the question. Given the Letsrun fascination with people moving up in distance, that is how I read it.
I think there could be plenty of fast West African guys in the mile if they focused on it - but stereotypically that is not the event you see black Americans running.
Ozzie wrote:
Bernard Lagat, who spent half of his life as an African and half of his life as an American. 3:48.38 as an American.
Bernard is 45, not 60.