Say this runner was a cross country runner that normally runs 60mpw
Say this runner was a cross country runner that normally runs 60mpw
200 mpw...
Jesus Christ it’s Gerry Lindgren junior
Just stay at your 60-70s maybe run one 100 mile week.
Even guys like Tom Fleming said 200 was too much, get your quality in brother, you can do that at 60-70 and even 100 if you adapt well
mileage hound wrote:
200 mpw...
Jesus Christ it’s Gerry Lindgren junior
Just stay at your 60-70s maybe run one 100 mile week.
Even guys like Tom Fleming said 200 was too much, get your quality in brother, you can do that at 60-70 and even 100 if you adapt well
how much benefit do you get from running one big peak week? Like say a guy who typically does 50 to 55 throws down a random 75 mile week. Is there a real benefit to that. I am asking sincerely as it's not something I've ever done or asked anybody to do.
high school xc coach wrote:
how much benefit do you get from running one big peak week? Like say a guy who typically does 50 to 55 throws down a random 75 mile week. Is there a real benefit to that. I am asking sincerely as it's not something I've ever done or asked anybody to do.
Tired legs? reality is very little, especially for HS who are still developing and lack proper nutritional knowledge for how to recover.
Don’t do that
Swim Bike Run wrote:
high school xc coach wrote:
how much benefit do you get from running one big peak week? Like say a guy who typically does 50 to 55 throws down a random 75 mile week. Is there a real benefit to that. I am asking sincerely as it's not something I've ever done or asked anybody to do.
Tired legs? reality is very little, especially for HS who are still developing and lack proper nutritional knowledge for how to recover.
I am not considering this for any of my athletes, though if there was a consensus that it was very beneficial, I would wisely consider 1 or 2 special kids to do it, and there would be a lot of talk about nutrition, recovery, self-evaluation, etc. with the runner and their parents.
Big turnover year for me right now, and my best runners are freshman, so this is not a remote possibility even if it was considered ideal training.
Try it.
Would take about 16 months, I bet you make it 3 months.
The biggest risk is probably that you would have a really sad life. And for what? What would the benefit of doing this be?
The biggest risk I see is you becoming a hippie who moves to Colorado and wins leadville 100. Now do you want that?
high school xc coach wrote:
Swim Bike Run wrote:
Tired legs? reality is very little, especially for HS who are still developing and lack proper nutritional knowledge for how to recover.
I am not considering this for any of my athletes, though if there was a consensus that it was very beneficial, I would wisely consider 1 or 2 special kids to do it, and there would be a lot of talk about nutrition, recovery, self-evaluation, etc. with the runner and their parents.
Big turnover year for me right now, and my best runners are freshman, so this is not a remote possibility even if it was considered ideal training.
It would not be benificial and all it did for Lindgren was shorten his career. Any of your runners that made it to 200 mpw would not run any faster and their chances of injury would increase by about tenfold.
200 is not even on the radar. that is just ridiculous. I run my best kids at maybe 55 per week. So my hypothetical BIG WEEK would be something like 75. My question is whether one week of 75, sandwiched by several 55s has any benefits.
I know, I am way outside the bounds of what OP is talking about, which doesn't interest me at all.
[quote]high school xc coach wrote:
200 is not even on the radar. that is just ridiculous. I run my best kids at maybe 55 per week. So my hypothetical BIG WEEK would be something like 75. My question is whether one week of 75, sandwiched by several 55s has any benefits.
I know, I am way outside the bounds of what OP is talking about, which doesn't interest me at all.[/quote
Imo it’s more injury risk than reward.
What I think is better is to hold 55 longer into the season. Hold it until rate before champ races. I always felt the cumulative impact of aerobic development over a period of months is more beneficial than a big week here or there.
In the scenario you outlined, the riskiest part would actually be the time spent building up to 200 miles. All that cumulative mileage would almost certainly result in an injury well before you hit 200 in a week.
On the other hand, if a runner were able to sustain 75-100 miles per week for a period of months, he or she could put in one 200-mile week with a moderate amount of risk if those miles are managed properly (new shoes, soft surfaces, easy running, adequate recovery and nutrition between runs). I think the benefits would be mostly mental, but it'd be a fun thing to try. I know of several runners who have done something similar and been fine.