Christian Coleman facing a possible suspension for 3 missed tests

anacondarunner wrote:

What happened to you, Rojo? You really believe Coleman should be treated differently because he's the 100m world champ?

Anyway, if the tester was at the wrong address, then this is a non-issue. It shouldn't count as a whereabouts failure. How could the AIU even begin to contend otherwise?

If, on the other hand, the tester was at the correct address at any point during Coleman's one-hour availability window and Coleman did not answer the door, then he clearly should be banned. Whether or not a phone call was made is irrelevant.

CC admitted not at his given address so whether tester went to wrong address is irrelevant now. Filling error !

Bang ; good night.

rule reader wrote:

anacondarunner wrote:

What happened to you, Rojo? You really believe Coleman should be treated differently because he's the 100m world champ?

Anyway, if the tester was at the wrong address, then this is a non-issue. It shouldn't count as a whereabouts failure. How could the AIU even begin to contend otherwise?

If, on the other hand, the tester was at the correct address at any point during Coleman's one-hour availability window and Coleman did not answer the door, then he clearly should be banned. Whether or not a phone call was made is irrelevant.

CC admitted not at his given address so whether tester went to wrong address is irrelevant now. Filling error !

Bang ; good night.

Did he? I know he said he was "Christmas shopping" but did he specify that he was doing so for the duration of his one-hour availability window? If so, I guess it's possible that he deserves a ban regardless of whether the tester was at the correct address, but I'd have to see the language of the USADA/WADA code to be sure about that.

Star wrote:

quehoares wrote:

My employees have to layout and adhere to availability 8 hours a day.

7 days a week?

Can never take any time off?

I am sure they can take a week off.

Coleman can't say don't test him for this one specific week.

You’re kidding right? Coleman can take a vacation, it’s as easy as updating a schedule. Just like my employees. Similarly, he can go somewhere on the weekend and update his schedule. Is 7 one hour windows a week really more burdensome than 5 eight hour windows? That’s your argument?

If you know what time practice, weights, and rehab are, you sure as hell know the one hour of the day you might be getting drug tested.

he was not where he was meant to be thats clear the rest is just noise created but coleman he dosnt say he was there and not disputed

track400h wrote:

worse than TDF wrote:

Has there ever been a clean sub 10 guy? It's just lineup after lineup of who's who of dopers.

Usain Bolt and Donovan Bailey are the only 100m Olympic Champions since automatic timing started that have never been associated with drug use or test positive. None of them ever missed a single test either. Coleman is either dirty or a massive f*cking idiot for missing so many doping test in such a short span of time. It is a shame how dirty the sport continues to be.

Both of those athletes have had questionable associations and have missed tests; however none of that matters in that they never tested positive or missed 3 tests in 12-month period.

The man needs own up to his mistakes accept the consequences

Colemans boyfriend wrote:

If I was CC after I skated the first time, I’d make sure they call me. FaceTime me. Send up a flare. Call my dad. Call Rojo. I would never miss another test.

I can sort of see how it is hard. Imagine you get tested 6times/year. That is 359 other times where you don't. Sort of easy to get cavalier about it. But man after the 1stmissed test, you think you would be paranoid about making sure you didn't get a 2nd strike and by the time you got to the 2nd, your would be quadruple checking everything to not ruin your career. Of course if your hot probably better off to miss the test and then try to get off on a technnicality.

Why on earth did he have his time set to be 7:15pm - 8:15pm. Every athlete I know has their window set to be 6am-7am or 7am-8am or the like. Also the report says "no call, as per client instructions" - when athletes have the freedom to ask for a phone call, they *all* ask for phone calls.

It isn't a big deal, it's not super strenous or life ruining. Just be in bed/in the house before 8am and turn on your phone ringer to loud before you go to sleep (but disable it for other apps).

I also think that 1 hour a day, every day, feels onerous. At the very least they should call and give you 15 minutes to get back to your location. There should not be a "no call" option, and 15 minutes is a short time, you can't purge your system of PEDs in 15 minutes.

Coleman doesn't even attempt to be where he is supposed to be one hour a day. If its too much for him, get another job.

History is not on Coleman's side. Those of us who have followed the sport for a long time have seen most of the athletes that had problems missing tests turn out to be dirty, it's like a flashback to the whole Tim Montgomery/Marion Jones scandal all over again.

Don't forget in all of this John Drummond is still somehow representing/coaching Christian Coleman while Drummond is serving an 8 year ban for Tyson Gay's positive test! Drummond was found to have "possessed, trafficked and administered banned performance-enhancing substances", in the case against Gay. Nothing about this situation looks good for Coleman.

Hope to hell he gets out of it. They're all dirty and we want to see sub 10 seconds in the 100. He has low 9.6 potential. You can see from his college days he's gotten much bigger which has destroyed his speed endurance but he's so fast through 70 that he holds on.

I think the year later Olympics is going to hurt a lot of people who were planning their cycles for this year.

Once again track trying to destroy one of their young stars. It's ridiculously stupid. Lyles vs Coleman was the one descent race they could hype.

If Coleman is out then I'm going Devine to win the 100m. That is of course if he doesn't get caught doping which he surely is but who freakin cares. The loud minority and for some reason everyone always listens to the loud minority. The rest of casual fans could careless.

Wow, at first I thought this was someone bumping up last year’s thread. Just lol @ his excuse “ready and available for testing” when he wasn’t even there. If this were truly just a matter of him being incompetent at filing his whereabouts, he should have learned his lesson after what should have been a bust last year.

He should definitely get banned, however , I think the AIU has opened a can of worms there:

Either they call everybody, either they never call anybody.

Example :

Athlete A has already two missed tests, a DCO comes for a third test, athlete A is absent, but get called, rush to get tested => athlete A is OK

Athlete B is in the the same situation, but the third time, the DCO leaves without warning => athlete B is banned.

If such differential treatment, they are bound to get sued .

A one hour window is a on hour window, a tester comes, you're there, if not, a missed test and BASTA, no deal, no call, nothing. Coleman put himself in this situation, but so did the AIU, by allowing their tester to warn

I think that he will get a reduced sentence, one year, from 9 dec 2019 to 9 dec 2020 ....

Star wrote:

quehoares wrote:

My employees have to layout and adhere to availability 8 hours a day.

7 days a week?

Can never take any time off?

I am sure they can take a week off.

Coleman can't say don't test him for this one specific week.

You are bad at making arguments.

If this was Gatlin who missed a test, Wejo and Rojo would've lit a f*cking fire and put Gatlin on a stick. They have always had huge bias in how they present certain athletes in their articles. They have zero ability to separate analysis articles from opinion pieces.

Coleman is a drug cheat. Has any 100m world champion ever missed FOUR drug tests in a year? Why do none of the other massive sprint names in the sport not have trouble with testers not calling or reporting correctly? Andre de Grasse and Noah Lyles would absolutely be tested as much as Coleman yet seem to be doing just fine with never missing a test. Even the dirtiest ones like Lewis or Greene would still get tested. Coleman deserves to get called out for being a cheat or the biggest f*cking idiot in the sport.

SalmonRice wrote:

If this was Gatlin who missed a test, Wejo and Rojo would've lit a f*cking fire and put Gatlin on a stick. They have always had huge bias in how they present certain athletes in their articles. They have zero ability to separate analysis articles from opinion pieces.

Coleman is a drug cheat. Has any 100m world champion ever missed FOUR drug tests in a year? Why do none of the other massive sprint names in the sport not have trouble with testers not calling or reporting correctly? Andre de Grasse and Noah Lyles would absolutely be tested as much as Coleman yet seem to be doing just fine with never missing a test. Even the dirtiest ones like Lewis or Greene would still get tested. Coleman deserves to get called out for being a cheat or the biggest f*cking idiot in the sport.

I don't think that he missed 4 in a year, since at least one of his missed tests in his last 'three-missed-test-in-a-year' year , was in 2018, (it 's a sliding window, not a calendar year) and the missed the tests do not have to be in a row (you can get tested OOC, 10 times in a period of 12 months, if you miss 3, you're done).

Otherwise, your arguments are right, the fact that it happens always with him (provided they are getting targeted the same way), is a red flag , he'd be done .

Sprintgeezer wrote:

SAFP and Blake have tested positive. Jeter and Bolt were outrageous.

Trust in their integrity, not for a second. I do trust, in a limited way, guys like Bromell, CL, Thompson, AHSB—but sprinters are an odd lot. It’s a “when in Rome” sort of thing. You pick and choose who to trust, and how far.

But I really don’t trust CC. Why? Sub-9.84 is the big one. Also, demeanor. Same as Dasaolu, Kilty, etc. Look at how CC is handling all of this, letting his hired gun fight it out. Yes as a lawyer you want to keep your client under control so that they don’t shoot themselves in the foot, but such conduct does not engender trust.

Wow!

Sprinting (department) has some work to do. It is sad that other than bolt and one or two others, the top sprinters have tested positive.

I'd like ot believe in Torrie Bowie and the new Star Elaine Thompson of Jamaica but who knows?