So most people don't know anyone who has had it yet you know multiple people, one who actually died, and you've had it yourself.
So most people don't know anyone who has had it yet you know multiple people, one who actually died, and you've had it yourself.
months later wrote:
No
2 people I know died
2 people I know spent over 45 days in the hospital
I know 15 people that have admitted to me they've had it
I'm 57. Had it in March.
Ran a low-grade fever for a few days. Coughed for a couple. Some weird aches & pains. Chills one night (woke up shivering/freezing).
I've had worse colds---not to mention the actual Flu (Influenza) a few years ago, which was far worse for me.
VroomVroom wrote:
So most people don't know anyone who has had it . . .
Not an argument here, just curious: On what is your use of "most" based?
A solid majority of the people responding to this thread *do* know one or more people who got it, so did you see a stat somewhere?
With over 2 million cases just in the USA, I doubt that "most people don't know anyone who has had it." Especially because a lot of people haven't been tested, so the actual number of cases is likely considerably greater than 2 million.
What you meant to say was that most of the people who replied to this thread said that they don't know anyone who had it, and I'm not even sure if that's accurate. Some of the people who claim to not know anyone who got sick might know people who were sick but who didn't broadcast it to everyone they knew, or they might know someone who got sick but choose to say otherwise because "iT's A hOaX" or something like that.
What I will concede here is that I live in a relatively densely-populated area, which means I was more likely to get it and that I'm more likely to know others who had it than someone living in a more remote area.
But to answer your question*: Yes, "most" people [who replied to this thread claim that] they don't know anyone who has had it yet [I] know multiple people, one who actually died, and [I]'ve had it [my]self.
*Edited for accuracy
Yes, me. Don’t get it!
My friend, 32 years old. Fit, thin male. No other preexisting conditions. Almost died. The virus after attacking his lungs lead to an inflamed heart. Lucky to make it.
Unlikely, sadly wrote:
slripe111 wrote:
Let me get this straight. Your TV tells you there is a pandemic. Your TV tells you not to wear a mask. Your tv tells you to wear a mask. Your Tv tells you 2 million deaths, then 50000 thousand, now 100000. Lot of conflicting info.
You rTV tells you there will be a resurgence, it tells you be very afraid because likely the absolute worst case scenario will happen.
There is no data to confirm worst case scenarios, nor can you confirm that 100000 people have died.
It sounds like we are all conspiracy theorist.
"There is no data to confirm worst case scenarios"
There is also no data to confirm that you will die if you shoot yourself in the head. You could be special. But, normally we use past experience and knowledge from those with past experience to make a solid guess about what would happen. There have been other viruses, other pandemics.
"nor can you confirm that 100000 people have died"
You could theoretically set about confirming it for yourself. But yeah, it would be impractical for one person to do. The organizations responsible for recording and reporting deaths have been doing it for a long time. I am willing to trust them.
A virus with less than 1% mortality rate and a gunshot to the head, perfect comparison.
What did Those with knowledge and experience, say about H1n1? I think they forecast equally grim prospects which never matured.
The organizations have been counting deaths for a long time and that’s all you need to know. Perfect. Anything with long standing is inviolable. It’s funny cause I know in the next breathe your going to demand we remove some statues.
Do they make mirrors for hypocrisy
ShalomYall wrote:
What you meant to say was that most of the people who replied to this thread said that they don't know anyone who had it, and I'm not even sure if that's accurate.
I could be wrong, but I went through the whole thread and I believe that well over half of the individual posters who responded indicated that they *did* know someone who had the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
Does someone want to work through the thread and make an actual tally?
Actually the coronavirus death rate is more than 1%, according to things like facts and science.
There have been roughly 8.3 million confirmed cases and over 447,000 deaths caused by coronavirus. To find the death rate, divide the number of deaths by the number of confirmed cases, and to make it a percent just multiply it by 100:
(447,000/8,300,000)x100=5.38554%
And unless I fell into an alternate reality in which 5.38554% is less than 1%, the death rate is considerably higher than 1%.
Of course you could bring up the point that there are likely a significantly higher number of cases that weren't recorded because the people weren't tested, in which case you would be correct. And then I would remind you that the number of deaths caused by coronavirus is likely higher as well because some of the people who died were also not tested so their deaths were attributed to other causes.
On the H1N1 note, the CDC says there were 12,469 deaths caused by H1N1 in the USA during the 2009 pandemic. The number of Americans killed by coronavirus is 116,140. Since 116,140/12,469=9.31429, that means that COVID-19 has already killed more than 9 times as many Americans as H1N1 did. Also, that 12,469 was over the course of the entire H1N1 pandemic, and the 116,140 is thus far during the COVID-19 pandemic, which (despite some people seeming to believe otherwise) is ongoing. So you can say that scientists are stupid because you don't think that 12,469 deaths is a big deal, and that since humanity didn't go extinct because of H1N1 that scientists know absolutely nothing about diseases and that they're wrong about COVID-19 and are over-reacting to that too, and I (along with other rational people) will tell you that COVID-19 is already significantly deadlier in the US than H1N1 ever was.
I don't know what statues have to do with a virus, but I do know I'm not going to mention them in my next "breathe," nor in my next breath, as that saying normally goes.
By the way, the gunshot comparison is actually a pretty decent (if morbid) way of conveying the idea. The point wasn't which is more likely to result in death. The point was that the person said that the worst possible outcome couldn't be guaranteed, to which someone replied that death from a gunshot to the head couldn't be guaranteed either. The point is that a scenario can be horrible and cause suffering without leading to the most extreme outcome imaginable, and that whether that extreme outcome is guaranteed or not has no bearing whatsoever on the severity of the situation.
I don't know what a mirrour for hypocrisy does, I haven't heard of one before so I'm not sure they exist, and I fail to see how one would be helpful here even if they do exist.
Yeah, I considered doing that, I just decided to give them the benefit of the doubt and not provide an actual statistic. I might (read: probably will) go count later because I'm a very fun person who enjoys statistics.
I had it as an asymptomatic carrier, only found out when I got screened & tested before I could go back to work.
No
YES.
One runner in my Manhattan-based training group, Brigitte Hebert, has died. She was 65, a hard trainer with beautiful running form, and a consistent top-ten age-group placer in big NY races. She is greatly missed by hundreds of people in the NYC running community and far beyond.
The 59-year-old father of one of our coaches has also died.
I know approximately ten other people who had the disease and have recovered. That's pretty typical here in the former epicenter.
It seems utterly unnecessary to make political assumptions based on who knows or doesn't know COVID patients or victims. It didn't matter whether these people were left- or right-wing. They just got sick, and two of them died.
No
This whole thing has turned into a political fight because its 2020 and apparently everything is red vs blue now.
I live in Michigan (far away from Detroit which got hit pretty hard). There aren't a ton of cases in our area compared to some but I know 3 people personally who got it (all three recovered) and I know someone who's friend died of it.
The person who's friend died had previously blown the whole thing off as just the flu, that is until people they knew started getting sick and dying. Their friend was a perfectly healthy person, no underlying conditions. Got sick and died within a week. It feels a lot less like "just like the flu" when a healthy middle aged person dies in a week.
viol wrote:
I had it as an asymptomatic carrier, only found out when I got screened & tested before I could go back to work.
So you felt fine but a test told you that you were sick.
Giles Corey wrote:
viol wrote:
I had it as an asymptomatic carrier, only found out when I got screened & tested before I could go back to work.
So you felt fine but a test told you that you were sick.
No, a test told him/her that s/he carried the virus--a positive test for infection says nothing about symptoms or being sick.
This stuff really isn't complicated--surprised to see the confusion.
Not confusion, just denial. Confusion can normally be mitigated with facts and reason, but denial gets more intense with facts and reason. Unfortunately.
