People don't know what they are talking about--it is rather ridiculous to think some upstart freshman will win an overall national title. Getting used to a new environment and stresses generally detracts from performance first year. Kelati has run 15:14 5000m--no one from NC state runs close to that--Stanford has 2 runners under 9 last indoor season for 3000 m which has not been matched by these recruits--college is a different game than hs.
Kev2 wrote:
Starliper and Touhy never broke 9--though I would expect them next year.
I understand, perhaps poorly worded but my intent was the Stanford pair (who did break 9) are pretty good which prior posters seemed to miss. Head to head they it's at least 50/50 they go 1-2 on NC State.
Lambo Owner wrote:
3 rings wrote:
Stanford did get a new coach, his name is JJ.
Where is Liz De Bole?
she left in 2019 when Miltenberg left for UNC, since he hired her on as his assistant HC in 2014...
So don't they have individual as well as team runners in NCAA just like nxn??
Can someone clarify that
I'd have to imagine they do. So are people arguing that they're going to be top 10 out of everyone or top 10 out of the team runners?
Okay so I found out that it's just like nxn with team and individuals. So if you take out the 38 individual qualifiers I'd say NC State will definitely have four in the top 10 and probably six or seven in the top 25. It's going to be an interesting storyline between the Freshman sinsations verse the veterans of Stanford
Kev2 wrote:
People don't know what they are talking about--it is rather ridiculous to think some upstart freshman will win an overall national title. Getting used to a new environment and stresses generally detracts from performance first year. Kelati has run 15:14 5000m--no one from NC state runs close to that--Stanford has 2 runners under 9 last indoor season for 3000 m which has not been matched by these recruits--college is a different game than hs.
Tuohy and Starliper aren't "upstart" freshmen. They have a lot of experience racing against professionals. Starliper represented team USA last summer.
After NXN last year, Tuohy ran a 6k at Club Nationals. She ran 20:11 in similar conditions to NCAAs last year - tons of mud and rain and cold and puddles on a tough course. She was literally smiling and waving to the crowd and making faces to her friends during the race. It was a slow strategic race and she definitely could have run faster. 20:11 would have placed 4th at NCAAs.
All of the freshmen are going to benefit tremendously from having training partners. They'll have better access to rehab modalities through the athletic training room. They will have better places to train and better coaching.
Ezrun wrote:
Is NCAA the same as nxn where there are individual and team competitors and you could actually finish 20th overall but d the 10 best team Runner
Anyway I think NC State will have a good shot to win but it's true that they are freshmen and might need some time getting used to college
Or they could come in like gangbusters and totally dominate
Who do you see as returners for NC State finishing pretty high? I think they actually had some Runners who finished like 50th and 70th to think they might step up and do a lot better and why do you think that?
I think Tuohy starliper camil and the transfer steelwood should all be top 20 but not sure if they're going to get top 10 but maybe they definitely have a lot of talent and maybe they'll push each other to do their very best
As for returners at NC State here is what I think:
Kelsey Chimel (sorry about spelling her last name) and Steelman (did not run for NC State last year but a returner this year) will go top 10 at NC AA.
Julia Z (not sure on spelling her last name), Nevada Moreno, and Dominique top 25.
That is top five without even knowing what starliper, Tuohy, and Waters May do. And as I said before I am a NC State fan and I am pulling for them, but the favorite still has to be Stanford who I do not like as a school. It will be a good battle with also NM, Michigan, Colorado.
Zofia Dudek is just coming off several weeks recovering from an Achilles strain of some sort. Will have to see how she holds up.
https://www.dyestat.com/gprofile.php?mgroup_id=44531&do=videos&video_id=298805
Had to smile a bit after ZD casually stated she ran 2k and 1600m time trials this spring -- that she and her coach were really pleased with -- then didn't say what the times were -- and the interviewer didn't ask.
Only 2 weeks off for the achilles strain so she'll be ready for that NSAF meet in South Dakota at the end of July if held.
Bower Man wrote:
Had to smile a bit after ZD casually stated she ran 2k and 1600m time trials this spring -- that she and her coach were really pleased with -- then didn't say what the times were -- and the interviewer didn't ask.
Only 2 weeks off for the achilles strain so she'll be ready for that NSAF meet in South Dakota at the end of July if held.
The meet has been cancelled. I thought she sounded dubious that she would have wanted to run there following the time off.
Congratulations?
In other news, I had a hamburger for dinner last night, it was spectacular.
Stanford girls talk about how things are going and the upcoming XC season.
https://www.dyestat.com/gprofile.php?mgroup_id=44531&do=videos&video_id=298893
What happened to Roberts? I found a few results at Stanford that were nowhere near her results from Northwestern.
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