Broken foot HELP

No. 5TH METATARSAL FRACTURES TAKE LONGER THAN 6 WEEKS. IF IT'S A JONES FRACTURE, MAYBE 6 MONTHS.

yea, your doctor likely has never run or is not familiar with running.

fractures of any bone take typically 6-8 weeks to heal.

5th met base avulsion fractures can take longer to heal, 10-12 weeks sometimes.

5th met jones fractures take even longer than that, especially without surgery.

running forces on the foot are 6-7 x body weight. doing that before the fracture is solid, is reckless.

cycling sure. swimming sure. just avoid running for a minimum 2 months.

I had a jones fracture in my 5th metatarsal. I was out of running for 17 weeks and I've read online about people who were out for much longer. Take it easy and recover. There is a good chance xc is going to be cancelled due to covid-19 anyways.

I sure hope you guys are wrong just made me extremely nervous. My doctor said that the bone was aligned and that's why I didn't need surgery. I don't want to be out longer than 6 weeks I need to run. What exactly is a Jones fracture what the significance of it?

walm-slay wrote:

yea, your doctor likely has never run or is not familiar with running.

fractures of any bone take typically 6-8 weeks to heal.

5th met base avulsion fractures can take longer to heal, 10-12 weeks sometimes.

5th met jones fractures take even longer than that, especially without surgery.

running forces on the foot are 6-7 x body weight. doing that before the fracture is solid, is reckless.

cycling sure. swimming sure. just avoid running for a minimum 2 months.

Im going to see if I can find my xrays. I tried walking without the boot and I'm able to no problem. However, if I tried walking on the side of my foot it would probably hurt. Is this a good sign? I hope my doctor says I could run because I might just run anyway I need to build mileage.

Do Not run I repeat Do NOT RUN. The reason I say this is because if you run there’s a good chance that you re aggravate it. Guess what that means your out again.

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I sure hope you guys are wrong just made me extremely nervous. My doctor said that the bone was aligned and that's why I didn't need surgery. I don't want to be out longer than 6 weeks I need to run. What exactly is a Jones fracture what the significance of it?

Some people won't like to hear the bad news. They start running too early and the injury comes back and it takes a lot longer.

Be patient. It's better to take it easy one week too long than one day too short.

Your goal right now just should be to recover right. Don't think about the next running season which might get canceled anyway.

jones fractures are significant because they are at a level of the bone where there is notoriously poor blood flow. thus, poor healing.

they are close in proximity to 5th met base avulsion fractures, and often times mistaken for them.

post XR if you're able.

walm-slay wrote:

jones fractures are significant because they are at a level of the bone where there is notoriously poor blood flow. thus, poor healing.

they are close in proximity to 5th met base avulsion fractures, and often times mistaken for them.

post XR if you're able.

Alright I will post them tomorrow if I find them

your right its just demotivating as hell ill post my xrays tomorrow

A dog attacked me at the end of a 2 hour run a block from my house. When I tried to kick it, still running, the dog ran between my legs and my foot rolled forward, fracturing three metatarsals and sending me straight to the ground. The pain was so intense that tears were streaming down my face and I wasn't able to utter a sound. I couldn't touch my foot to the ground, so I had to crawl the half block home on my back with my foot in the air.

I promptly soaked my foot in ice water, dried it off and wrapped my ankle with an elastic tape. Either that day or the next I drove left footed to a hospital where they did an xray, and the doctor said "we might have to put your foot in a cast." I said, I can't do that because I have to run! The doctor said, "No! We're going to put your foot in a cast!" and stormed out of the room, leaving me there supposedly helpless.

I hopped back out of the hospital, drove home, and kept soaking my foot in ice water as often as possible, which I knew was the best treatment from previous injuries. In the next few days I returned to work, and kept hopping around wherever I went. In a week I visited the running podiatrist John Pagliano in Long Beach who took more xrays, gave me the good news that my foot was healing quite well. He also said putting a cast on my foot would have been a big mistake, as it would have atrophied my foot and delayed the healing for more than a year!

He told me to keep doing what I was doing, and gave me a hard soled sandal to wear with the elastic wrap. Based on his suggested schedule, I began my "training" again at 4 1/2 weeks, by hobbling and walking 50 meters for 1 lap of the dirt track where I worked. That night my foot ached more, and I used this as a guide. Too much aching meant that I was overdoing it and back off. Normal aching meant I was on the right track.

At 6 weeks from the injury I was able to start running again. I started gradually and don't recall the progression but it's in my training logs. By 10 weeks I was up to 100 miles a week. I was still hobbling a bit when I ran but my foot was healing quite well. I began racing again with the goal of bettering my time in the marathon. Four months from the injury, I took 4 minutes off my best time that I'd been trying to better for two years. I almost bettered it again three weeks later with a second place (not close to the winner), then smashed it five months after that.

If you follow this method, then I'm sure your foot will be fine.

That is motivating man. I hope I can run next week it just depends what the doctor says. I know I just gotta go a little at a time and can’t run if there’s pain I’m posting the pics now.

Those are the photos. I hope you can see the fracture it’s on the fifth metatarsal. I couldn’t figure out how to upload the image on the forum.

not a jones fx.

actually, by all accounts, looks pretty good.

it's intra-articular which might lead to some lingering pain after it's healed, but a 6-8 week return might not be unrealistic.

still for now, take it slow.

walm-slay wrote:

not a jones fx.

actually, by all accounts, looks pretty good.

it's intra-articular which might lead to some lingering pain after it's healed, but a 6-8 week return might not be unrealistic.

still for now, take it slow.

Alright thankyou for the advice I do appreciate it!

The key is soaking your foot in a bucket of ice water, at least 3 times a day! This is extremely important. Then dry your foot well, and wrap it with the elastic bandage every time. I wore the elastic bandage all the time at least until I started with "training" again, then started not wearing it sometimes at night. You will be able to tell when you won't need the wrap as much anymore, but always keep up the soaking in ice water until your foot is completely healed, at the beginning at least 3 times a day, and when almost healed at least 1 time a day.

I went to the doctor today marked 6 weeks and 4 days. So far I am able to walk no problem, however he still told me to give it two weeks. Should I trust my doctor or run anyway because I can honestly walk fine and I tried to jog like 20 meters and did it no problem.

If some drunk told you to not run would you listen to him? No, and the same for doctors.

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Since you can walk fine and jogged 20 meters no problem you can go ahead and start training.

Do it in a gradual way like I did and you should be fine.

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If some drunk told you to not run would you listen to him? No, and the same for doctors.

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Since you can walk fine and jogged 20 meters no problem you can go ahead and start training.

Do it in a gradual way like I did and you should be fine.

Alright thank you for the advice I will start training again tomorrow real light and work my way up.