Nico Young Is Going For Galen Rupp's 13:37 American Junior Record Right Now - Official Discussion Thread.

rojo wrote:

I'd love to hear the logic of anyone involved in this. Hey, "Let's go for a historic track and field record but not tell anyone about it until right before it starts when most of them are asleep."

Can someone please tell me why anyone would set this up this way?.

Agree bro. Wtf where they thinking. Obviously you could do way better

Anyone with a smartphone, LTE connection, and the youtube app could have done better. Ridiculous.

Here are his splits.

https://twitter.com/chrisnickinson/status/1275650115726868486

And this next tweet makes me sad. This thing had so much potential.

https://twitter.com/prepcaltrack/status/1275643669073268739?s=21

Rupp's image would have gone way up if he rabbitted a HSer to break his own record. Mike Smith should move into PR - instead of just coaching - as that was a brilliant idea. But instead it was run when it was way too hot, with no promotion and poor rabbiting.

https://twitter.com/PrepCalTrack/status/1275643433814822915

So Covid-19 was reason for no promotion? That makes me feel a little better but the sub-4 event didn't have a problem with the crowd.

For the record, if you missed it, he went 4:21 for 1600 and 8:43 for 3200 but died badly over the last mile.

Young does join some nice people at #4 all time on the US hgih school ranks according to TFN.

13:37.91 Galen Rupp (Central Catholic, Portland, Oregon) 2004

13:44.0 Gerry Lindgren (Rogers, Spokane, Washington) 1964

13:44.70 Dathan Ritzenhein (Rockford, Michigan) 2001

13:50.55 Nico Young - 2020

13:52.8 Steve Prefontaine (Marshfield, Coos Bay, Oregon) 1969

The rabbits made it about halfway.

rojo wrote:

And I didn't realize it was 79 degrees. Who in their right mind would think it was a good idea to run it in 79 degree temps?

Exactly! It was in fact the hottest day in Portland so far this year.

Not only is tomorrow supposed to be cooler, this weekend the high is supposed to be in the 60s!

I doubt Covid was the reason why they didn't publicize it. They traveled to a different state for one so it's not like the Newbury Park/Thousand Oaks community was going to make the 14 hour drive. Second of all, they could've publicized it without releasing the location. Seems like very poor planning from everybody involved.

Amory wrote:

Anyone with a smartphone, LTE connection, and the youtube app could have done better. Ridiculous.

And that location in Portland has great and fast LTE connectivity. One of the easiest places on earth to get fast mobile internet.

These kids understand, they won't be denied. One of the great performances, but just a beginning.

How do coaches think it is ok to break the travel restriction rules to take kids to these time trials? They have such over inflated egos to believe their goals are more important than everyone else's health. Brosnan should be suspended from coaching as he clearly has no regard for his athlete's health and he only cares about his shot at fame. The same goes for the coach that took his 800m runner to Arizona last week. These coaches need to be driven out of HS coaching, they belong coaching club with all the other leeches.

Oh, shut up. The kids understand.

TheseKidsUnderstand wrote:

One of the great performances, but just a beginning.

Maybe but he needs better coaching or he'll just be another German.

A coach like Al Sal would have never let this happen. (Instead Al Sal's micro meet would be so meticulously and obsessively planned everyone here would also find it outrageous but for entirely opposite reasons as this meet)

1HandedH20Drinkr wrote:

How do coaches think it is ok to break the travel restriction rules to take kids to these time trials? They have such over inflated egos to believe their goals are more important than everyone else's health. Brosnan should be suspended from coaching as he clearly has no regard for his athlete's health and he only cares about his shot at fame. The same goes for the coach that took his 800m runner to Arizona last week. These coaches need to be driven out of HS coaching, they belong coaching club with all the other leeches.

Seriously? Get over it. COVID is a joke and anyone still holed up is a big baby.

And why did they do the 5000m at a closed track? There are nice open tracks in Portland. Just go to one of those for pete's sake.

And the best HS 5000m mark isn't even Rupp's. Lindgren ran his 13:44 on a dirt track. Neither Nico nor Galen could have done that.

hot day in pdx wrote:

rojo wrote:

"They didn't announce Nico's race ahead of time because they were sneaking onto a closed track."

Can anyone in Porltand confirm?

This is most likely true but I don't know 100%

Why don't you email Franklin High School (where it was held) or Portland Public Schools and ask?

Franklin High School's website:

https://www.pps.net/Domain/116

The Athletic Director's email address is *****

https://www.pps.net/domain/1177

Or you can email Portland Public Schools media contact. See here:

https://www.pps.net/domain/50

It’s true, there are no tracks available for official events in Portland right now.

Also, I want to defend the pacers. The reason this was held in Portland was that Galen was going to pace. When that fell through this week a couple of guys stepped up to help. Pacer 1 hit 4:20 exactly. Pacer 2 went two more laps at the same pace. It would have been great to have a pacer go longer but the guys hit the pace on short notice.

I didn't watch the race but 13:50 is great, even more if he was alone ! He's 4th all time right ?

However, if he ran 13:50, no matter the conditions, I think we can all agree his 3k (8:03) 10*400 was either a fake session or a really dumb session.

When you run a fast 5k, by 3k you're already gone through a lot of pain, so imagine running a 3k 30seconds faster than 5k pace, in training, followed by 10*400 at 3k pace (which is already a really hard session on it own)

Power move for Rupp would have been to have joined as a "pacer" and then blasted out a solo sub 13.

At 80 degrees, honestly he is in Rupp/Ritz shape right now, just had no help and lost 10-15s with the heat. I understand having a plan and wanting to stick to it but if it’s going to just be a TT anyway and the pacers can only go 2400, they should have waited. 10-15 degrees could have been the difference.

Nice to see another Central Catholic alum, Sam Truax do some pacing. He’s the son of John “Wildhorse” Truax who is a big shoe guy at Nike.

Most impressed by how Nico was able to hold it together once he was solo and the pace started to slip. ~8:43 for 3200 and then only slowing down to 68s.

Next year, he’s gotta start to be able to invert the splits some so he’s running 13:50 with his last 1k in sub-2:36, not 2:51

The more I think about this the more impressed I am.

I wish he had another chance to go after it. Rupp went 13:52 then 13:37 the year he set the record. I could see Nico getting the record if he was able to find another race, it was a bit cooler, and he had either some pacing through 4K+ or some competition to that point.

Rupp having a little boo boo is pretty pathetic. He can run 4:20 miles in his sleep. He should have paced the kid. Would have made his legacy so much better.

Alert! Alert! He only an the 25th best time in the NCAA indoor in the 3000 against professionals where he did not lead. The 25th best time indoor in the 5000 in the NCAA was 13:48. I made this prediction using these facts over and over a few months ago but it was received with the typical Letsrun opinions not based on facts. Many of you were insulting to the NCAA guys by predicting that he would run faster.