LRC! Help find this violent cyclist near Bethesda

Oh Please wrote:

That first screenshot I thought it was LRCs favorite Pennsylvanian, which would have been about as epic as it gets.

I figured one of many regulars here would fit the profile.

So the person filming the assault and battery does nothing in this situation? Got it. How is this person helping? This person could have easily stepped in, taken his bike or called the police. Instead he keeps filming.

A Hungry, Violent Mob wrote:

Totally love how all of these clips never show what led up to the event. Never. It's always the reaction.

Glad you pointed that out! My sources on the scene tell me that it went like this:

Cyclist: Why are you putting those signs up?

Girl: Keep on riding, pops.

Cyclist: Take that garbage down right now!

Girl: Did you forget to put on your pants this morning, or is that how you normally dress?

Cyclist: I'm not going to tell you again!

Girl: What you going to do about it tough guy?! (with venom in her voice and a glint in her eye)

Cyclist (dismounting): I'll show you!

Assuming this report is correct, and I have very reason to believe it is, I think the cyclist was well within the boundaries of what is acceptable when he chose to attack the two kids.

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

So the person filming the assault and battery does nothing in this situation? Got it. How is this person helping? This person could have easily stepped in, taken his bike or called the police. Instead he keeps filming.

Another young girl should have stolen the grown man's bike? Great work by her to get some footage.

Did one of the kids have spray paint?

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

So the person filming the assault and battery does nothing in this situation? Got it. How is this person helping? This person could have easily stepped in, taken his bike or called the police. Instead he keeps filming.

There is a consistent visceral reaction to these events being caught on video. That reaction "says "why didn't they stop filming and do something?" But it actually means "I wish this hadn't been caught on video."

A Hungry, Violent Mob wrote:

Totally love how all of these clips never show what led up to the event. Never. It's always the reaction.

Why would they show that? These events aren't exactly an every day occurrence. Very few reasonable people would EXPECT this sort of reaction, so why would they start filming before said reaction?

In fact, it they were filming with their phone from the start, that'd be even more suspicious in that it would seem they were trying to goad that type of reaction.

(none of this applies to CCTV or any other camera that would be rolling regardless)

Does anyone know what was written on the signs?

White man's eyes see all wrote:

There is a consistent visceral reaction to these events being caught on video. That reaction "says "why didn't they stop filming and do something?" But it actually means "I wish this hadn't been caught on video."

It does not mean that, at all, so please stop insinuating it does.

I'm not approving of what he did it all. It was 100% battery and he should be charged. All I'm saying is the person filming it could have done something to either prevent it from happening or easily been able to stop the person from escaping by taking their bike and calling the police as this was happening. Instead they chose to keep filming. I get that in the moment of this, you aren't clearly thinking all these situations, but they were quick to pull out there phone weren't they?

Had the police been called and arrived, there are 4 people involved in this crime. The 1 witness (person filming who may have also been a victim), the older woman (who may have also been a victim), the younger girl (who was 100% the victim) and the bicyclist who committed the crime. As long as the 3 explanations of the witness and the victim(s) match up, the cyclist would be arrested and charged.

You don't think it has anything to do with that, but it does. Because you're only looking at it from the POV of the perpetrator. Even with your long-winded explanation, you never consider who's filming. it may have been an 8 year-old girl. it may have been a black man. It may have been a grandfather. But you only see a power dynamic where the only defense is strength; where the only solution is escalating the conflict.

In that reality, it's offensive to you that the actual result in this case may come from avoiding the conflict, gathering evidence, and allowing the resolution to take place at a later time. None of that matters to you; if the video doesn't show a fight, and anger, and violence, it's pointless to you.

justaguess wrote:

Assuming this report is correct, and I have very reason to believe it is, I think the cyclist was well within the boundaries of what is acceptable when he chose to attack the two kids.

You are wrong. No one is ever "within the boundaries of what is acceptable" when they choose to attack kids.

You're messed up.

Cyclists are terrible human beings.

Ahhh, another guy who will loose everything: Job, wife.... you name it.

I feel a little bit sorry for him but not too much.

It's almost like your reputation matters.

...and the things you do in the world affect your reputation.

John Wooden advised to be more concerned with your character than your reputation. In this case, the corruption of his character will ruin his reputation. So all is right, IMO.

All I'm saying is the person filming it could have done something to either prevent it from happening or easily been able to stop the person from escaping by taking their bike and calling the police as this was happening. Instead they chose to keep filming. I get that in the moment of this, you aren't clearly thinking all these situations, but they were quick to pull out there phone weren't they?

The girl that filmed it also posted it on reddit. She was the same age as the others, don't know what you want her to do besides film it.

Mort McMurray wrote:

justaguess wrote:

Assuming this report is correct, and I have very reason to believe it is, I think the cyclist was well within the boundaries of what is acceptable when he chose to attack the two kids.

You are wrong. No one is ever "within the boundaries of what is acceptable" when they choose to attack kids.

You're messed up.

I believe he was being sarcastic.

VaporBoi wrote:

The girl that filmed it also posted it on reddit. She was the same age as the others, don't know what you want her to do besides film it.

Okay, that's a whole different ballgame. For some reason I thought it was a man who filmed as it seemed like a mans voice yelling at the guy committing the crime. I would not expect a young(er) female to confront the attacker and risk physical harm to herself and the rest of the group. This guy is scum.

I saw earlier on twitter where they had identified this guy with his strava data, anyone know if the cope have arrested this raging trumptard yet?

I don't like what happened any more than the rest of you, but let me ask this:

how would you feel if the trail specifically prohibits posting anything - no signs, no announcements, absolutely nothing along its perimeters.

And how would you feel if it turns out that the person with the camera wasn't knocked over but just tripped in trying to flee the guy? What if he never touched the person holding the camera?

And what if before the video started, he had told those people that there is no posting allowed along the trail corridor, and people on both sides of the issues are asked to respect that limitation, and they are too?

Just asking....