The thing that I think that has changed the most is authenticity.
The thing that I think that has changed the most is authenticity.
Runner10287 wrote:
coach wrote:
Of course not which is why I always preface posts with "where I live" or in the NYC metropolitan area. Regarding going outside, many of my colleagues have mentioned how their students have not been outside since mid March. These are poor inner city kids. Their parents are "essential workers" if they have jobs and they are frightened of the virus and frightened of gang kids or life in rough projects.
It's also why different states need different protocols dealing with this "pandemic.")
It's also why each of us sees "racism" and "white privilege" differently.
It's also why I recognize and respect and listen to most of the opinions on this message board.
So you have no clue of the prostest? The riots? The looting? The clearly non social distancing everywhere? Hence my hyperbolic comment of "people sure are going outside now".
I was referring to everyday activities absent of the protests. I was referring to being quarantined because of covid. Sorry I didnt understand what you meant.
If you want to know my opinion of it I'm not surprised. As I stated earlier many young people don't have hope. They've heard their parents' stories and nothing seems to have changed. They dont trust the media, politicians have failed them, they have no clear vision, why would they. Their dreams have been more than deferred, this is the result. With no other outlet this was bound to happen. Will there be change? I like that more white people than ever are protesting. Needed now are strong leaders at every level.
The world needs good employees, I guess wrote:
agip wrote:
I feel like this was written in code.
Whoever wrote it is in their 20s, went to a selective college, inculcated in a certain kind of mass think that all you have to do is say like '125' and all his peers will nod and agree.
Say what you mean, young feller.
It was plain as day, not receiving the message can be attributed to the receiver. I'm not afraid to speak more clearly, with less difficult constructs.
I'm saying: I believe the typical LRC poster (regardless of age) fits a profile. That profile: upper class, goes with the flow in society and everything seems to work pretty well, but never really questions if there's a different way. They just get instructions on the right way to live, and they follow the instructions, and it works out for them (at least, in getting them the typical modern American dream, which I would argue is a nightmare for someone who is not deluding themselves). Run in HS and get good grades, be a "good kid" (don't break The Rules), go to college and maybe run there, and then get a job and start building the house, the wife, the retirement savings. Life, with the default template, works amazingly for these people (they would argue).
But outside of the LRC poster's tunnel vision, there are people born into very different circumstances and for whom the same life template would not work at all. Some people grow up in places that make it really hard not to give into despair, when there's so little hope for the future. Some people don't even have access to parts of the pathway at all.
But LRC posters don't genuinely acknowledge these radical differences between people's situations. They're just like "why are people out there trying to change this wonderful world I live in", without really bothering to notice that these people are screaming for help and change. And when those people who scream out are heard, and society changes to accommodate them, LRC posters get angry, because to them it's a temper tantrum rewarded. The typical LRC poster seems to have grown up in an authoritarian household in the 60s or 70s, where you weren't allowed to question authority, and you think of that trait as a virtue in yourself and others.
In summary, I am saying, that the typical LRC poster is completely self-absorbed with their own community, with its culture and issues, and they log on here to judge and complain about the larger world they're willfully ignorant of. This happens to people of all stripes, but LRC's brand is the conservative authoritarian variety. I grew up in a household like that, and functioned that way for a long time until I had no choice but to seek alternatives because I became so miserable. I have lots of experience with this value system though, which is why I have such an easy time spotting that type of authoritarian thinking and judgment.
If your first reaction is to try and blow me off, feel free to recognize that as a close-minded way of protecting your ignorance, which is the key to believing the world is good and you're living right.
Hmmm... I clicked on this thread to post something about how the current times/events compare to my memories of the 60s.
However, after reading this post and the OPs response of "Thank You". I'm confused as to if I should comment about my thoughts on the differences and similarities of 2020 & the 60's.
I'm not saying if "the world needs" is wrong in his/her comments it just seems to be a different question than the original one.
OP, do you wish to hear comments about your original question or are you more interested in saying some people are oblivious to other people's struggles in life? Because if it's the later that kind of goes without saying and it has been forever thus.
konro wrote:
I'm amazed that anyone really thinks that Trump is on the verge of being a dictator. I agree Trump says some ridiculous things, puts his opponents down, and fights to win the election. But the idea that he will change the US from a Constitutional republic to a Dictatorship means YOU ARE WEARING THE TIN FOIL HAT.
All due respect, but when Obama became president Republicans didn't protest in the streets. Republicans care about a Constitutional Republic, we aren't close to Totalitarianism by any means.
From day one trump has done a number of acts that show he believes only he can save the country from ruin. He has gone on to break laws and many norms to gain control over the nation. He has threatened many times not to accept the results of elections. He is laying the groundwork to dispute the 2020 election as we speak.
Trump's activities this week are precisely those of an embattled dictator who feels power slipping away. Little green men, without badges or names, have appeared on US streets. The US military has been deployed on US streets. This is serious and should not be ignored. They are all the signs of revolution/coup/seizing of power.
Old Man by the Sea wrote:
The thing that I think that has changed the most is authenticity.
you think hippies are authentic and BLM isnt?
Or am I misunderstanding you?
We had better music and cooler cars but definitely not better beer. The development of the craft beer industry is the greatest achievement of the last 60 years.
another old person wrote:
I feel like the country is in a worse place in 2020 than it was in the 1960s. Although those males of us who were in high school in the 60s were concerned about the draft, we didn't feel like the country would come apart like the current red/blue split which is so bad that each side has its own news sources and doesn't believe what the other side's news sources are saying. Back then, even if you had different opinions, at least everyone could agree upon what was reality, except for the tin foil hat crowd.
No one doubted that the loser of the 1968 election would accept the results but now there is real concern that Trump might not leave the White House if he loses. He is already setting up grounds for contesting the results with his attacks on vote by mail and his unfounded assertion that he won the popular vote in 2016 but for the illegals voting. Moreover, 40% of the population will fight to the end for Trump not matter what he does. In the 60s, no leader had that kind of fanatical devotion and no leader was hated that badly.
Serious question for this poster but first some background.
I voted yesterday in a blue state primary. Since late 2019 we now have permanent vote by mail on demand.
The traditional voting procedure was designed to provide a reasonable expectation that the votes were counted and that there was almost no chance of a bad actor pulling the vote between the booth and the counting.
Yesterday, I voted on a paper ballot and dropped it into a box that will be transported by a third, fourth or who knows how many parties to a city center that is known for having more votes than residents. And, I voted at a precinct.
A vote by mail must arrive through several hands to my house, if I am still alive or at the same residence, and be transported by God knows how many hands through the postal service to a counter.
Do you really believe that our voting rights are intact?
Do we not need a new voting rights act to be sure that we are identified at the polls and we can vote in a secure and confidential manner away from intimidation, family, neighborhood and union influence?
We must be able to vent our views and values at the polls or chaos, much greater than what is now happening, will ensue.
The leftists who are torching the cities and brutalizing innocent citizens are as of now acting without opposition.
Do we really want to see what will happen if voting rights are denied?
newredsun wrote:
another old person wrote:
I feel like the country is in a worse place in 2020 than it was in the 1960s. Although those males of us who were in high school in the 60s were concerned about the draft, we didn't feel like the country would come apart like the current red/blue split which is so bad that each side has its own news sources and doesn't believe what the other side's news sources are saying. Back then, even if you had different opinions, at least everyone could agree upon what was reality, except for the tin foil hat crowd.
No one doubted that the loser of the 1968 election would accept the results but now there is real concern that Trump might not leave the White House if he loses. He is already setting up grounds for contesting the results with his attacks on vote by mail and his unfounded assertion that he won the popular vote in 2016 but for the illegals voting. Moreover, 40% of the population will fight to the end for Trump not matter what he does. In the 60s, no leader had that kind of fanatical devotion and no leader was hated that badly.
a city center that is known for having more votes than residents.
I call BS. You are probably confusing votes with registered voters or that sort of thing.
Obvi if you move away from a district you are still registered to vote but you don't vote there. It's very common and results in 'more registered voters than residents' in many places. Doesn't imply fraud at all.
Either prove yourself correct or retract.
You can't just spew this kind of thing without evidence. It's incredibly destructive to the nation.
agip wrote:
He has threatened many times not to accept the results of elections.
No, you're thinking of Hillary and the Dems.
[/quote]The US military has been deployed on US streets.[/quote]
Not yet, but hopefully soon!
brrrrrrrrrrrr wrote:
agip wrote:
He has threatened many times not to accept the results of elections.
No, you're thinking of Hillary and the Dems.
The US military has been deployed on US streets.[/quote]
Not yet, but hopefully soon![/quote]
Show me where the dems threatened not to accep the result of elections. We all know trump did that many times.
I think we all saw the Humvees and military trucks in DC, and we saw those little green men with military weapons deployed on the street.
I had rock DJ Pete Fornatale's son in my class. Pete once told me that if you remember the 60's then you didn't take part in it! I remember it all......I'm such a nerd!
SDSU Aztec wrote:
The difference in technology is massive:
2) Phones were rotary and generally on a wall. You couldn't leave messages and if the other party was on the line, there was a busy signal. You had to pay for long distance and people I knew with boyfriends/girlfriends living somewhere else, were spending $200+ month.
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You were hanging out with really rich people. 200 bucks in 1970 is about 1400 now. So your friends were payign 15k/year on phone calls?
agip wrote:
I call BS. You are probably confusing votes with registered voters or that sort of thing.
Obvi if you move away from a district you are still registered to vote but you don't vote there. It's very common and results in 'more registered voters than residents' in many places. Doesn't imply fraud at all.
Either prove yourself correct or retract.
You can't just spew this kind of thing without evidence. It's incredibly destructive to the nation.
Nobody who has every looked into voter fraud in the US has really found it.ab The heritage foundation (i.e. about a biased source of news as you can find. They still think tax cuts will balance the budget) has some big database and they are up to like 1500 cases across the US over the past decade.
Now voter suppression is a different story. The US has a long history of that...
Vote by mail is also pretty stupid. It isn't the 1980s.
couldn't continue waiting at least 5 minutes wrote:
The world needs good employees, I guess wrote:
It was plain as day, not receiving the message can be attributed to the receiver. I'm not afraid to speak more clearly, with less difficult constructs.
I'm saying: I believe the typical LRC poster (regardless of age) fits a profile. That profile: upper class, goes with the flow in society and everything seems to work pretty well, but never really questions if there's a different way. They just get instructions on the right way to live, and they follow the instructions, and it works out for them (at least, in getting them the typical modern American dream, which I would argue is a nightmare for someone who is not deluding themselves). Run in HS and get good grades, be a "good kid" (don't break The Rules), go to college and maybe run there, and then get a job and start building the house, the wife, the retirement savings. Life, with the default template, works amazingly for these people (they would argue).
But outside of the LRC poster's tunnel vision, there are people born into very different circumstances and for whom the same life template would not work at all. Some people grow up in places that make it really hard not to give into despair, when there's so little hope for the future. Some people don't even have access to parts of the pathway at all.
But LRC posters don't genuinely acknowledge these radical differences between people's situations. They're just like "why are people out there trying to change this wonderful world I live in", without really bothering to notice that these people are screaming for help and change. And when those people who scream out are heard, and society changes to accommodate them, LRC posters get angry, because to them it's a temper tantrum rewarded. The typical LRC poster seems to have grown up in an authoritarian household in the 60s or 70s, where you weren't allowed to question authority, and you think of that trait as a virtue in yourself and others.
In summary, I am saying, that the typical LRC poster is completely self-absorbed with their own community, with its culture and issues, and they log on here to judge and complain about the larger world they're willfully ignorant of. This happens to people of all stripes, but LRC's brand is the conservative authoritarian variety. I grew up in a household like that, and functioned that way for a long time until I had no choice but to seek alternatives because I became so miserable. I have lots of experience with this value system though, which is why I have such an easy time spotting that type of authoritarian thinking and judgment.
If your first reaction is to try and blow me off, feel free to recognize that as a close-minded way of protecting your ignorance, which is the key to believing the world is good and you're living right.
Hmmm... I clicked on this thread to post something about how the current times/events compare to my memories of the 60s.
However, after reading this post and the OPs response of "Thank You". I'm confused as to if I should comment about my thoughts on the differences and similarities of 2020 & the 60's.
I'm not saying if "the world needs" is wrong in his/her comments it just seems to be a different question than the original one.
OP, do you wish to hear comments about your original question or are you more interested in saying some people are oblivious to other people's struggles in life? Because if it's the later that kind of goes without saying and it has been forever thus.
Perhaps I should have been more clear in my original post. I guess I thought it was obvious how the unrest with covid and racial strife of today vs what was going on in the 60s.
My mistake. LetsRun have enough threads with people romanticizing their glory days of a bygone that never really were as great as they remembered and that's not what I intended here.
I am looking for a discussion on the civil unrest of the 60s vs 2020.
We all know the music from that era is better. Good thing you can still listen to it today and have much easier access to any song on demand.
Runner10287 wrote:
I am looking for a discussion on the civil unrest of the 60s vs 2020.
We all know the music from that era is better. Good thing you can still listen to it today and have much easier access to any song on demand.
In the 60s the civil rights movement was an important struggle against institutional racism throughout the country. Republican politicians worked hard to overcome the Democrat tradition of sustaining institutional racism. In 2020 institutional racism has been almost entirely eliminated but individual racism still exists. Democrat politicians have evolved to using claims of racism as a tool to obtain political power. Democrat politicians demonizing opposing viewpoints and engaging in name calling are hoping it will distract the masses from their failed policies and leadership.
Runner10287 wrote:
I am looking for a discussion on the civil unrest of the 60s vs 2020.
We all know the music from that era is better. Good thing you can still listen to it today and have much easier access to any song on demand.
As I mentioned in my post there were different aspects of civil unrest. There was the civil rights movement, there was the anti-war movement, there were race riots, and there was just general social upheaval because of changing cultural norms.
Can you be more specific about what you are looking for? For example, campus anti-war protests were completely different from the inner city race riots.
Here are the numbers that summarize everything you need to know
US Average life expectancy 2020: 78.9 years
US Average life expectancy 1965: 70.2 years
I would never drink the cheap beer and rot gut whiskey that my father drank - and when your friends use "dive bar" as a term for a cool new hangout they discovered, tell them the decrepit, decayed taverns of 1960s Boston no longer exist.
very old and getting older wrote:
Runner10287 wrote:
I am looking for a discussion on the civil unrest of the 60s vs 2020.
We all know the music from that era is better. Good thing you can still listen to it today and have much easier access to any song on demand.
In the 60s the civil rights movement was an important struggle against institutional racism throughout the country. Republican politicians worked hard to overcome the Democrat tradition of sustaining institutional racism. In 2020 institutional racism has been almost entirely eliminated but individual racism still exists. Democrat politicians have evolved to using claims of racism as a tool to obtain political power. Democrat politicians demonizing opposing viewpoints and engaging in name calling are hoping it will distract the masses from their failed policies and leadership.
Please LBJ was a Democrat. Bobby Kennedy was a Democrat Goldwater was the Republican. Yes Wallace was a Democrat who broke away from the party because he wanted to keep institutional racism. Later on Southerners became Republican to uphold the Confederate tradition.
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
Nobody who has every looked into voter fraud in the US has really found it.ab The heritage foundation (i.e. about a biased source of news as you can find. .
Well looks like they need to add one more criminal to the list:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/donald-trump-felony-voter-fraud-florida.htmlJakob Ingebrigtsen has a 1989 Ferrari 348 GTB and he's just put in paperwork to upgrade it
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