Can Newbury Park boys 4-peat at NXN?

No they won't. I am taking the field of the other 100 great teams.

It’s a lock.

There has never been a team with that much talent coming in to high school, EVER!

They have 9 returners who in 8th grade ran faster than a 5:00 1600 or equivalent 1500, of which 6 of them were faster than 4:50. Any team would be blessed to have one, maybe 2 kids with that kind of talent show up on their campus, but to have 9?!?!? This isn’t counting any incoming 9th graders they may have. Most teams rely on getting lucky, discovering some kids in PE that develop, but Newbury Park can focus on those 9 kids and have plenty of room for error. It is CRAZY

If the current class of 9th graders Improves by 45 seconds each over 5k over the course of 4 years they will be the best team ever by a wide margin. It really wouldn’t surprise me if they come close to a sweep at their state meet when they are 12th graders.

We had 5 guys on our team last year who broke 5 in junior high but we didn't even win state. I would be surprised if Great Oak does not have 9 on their team.

Great Oak will win in 2020. They are much older than Newberry this season. The years after that Newberry destroys everyones. Louden Valley slowly slinks off back into the hole they came from, Unless they get 6 more transfers again.

go go run wrote:

We had 5 guys on our team last year who broke 5 in junior high but we didn't even win state. I would be surprised if Great Oak does not have 9 on their team.

Ok, imagine if you had double that number. Think you would have won then?

I could only find 4 on GO.

May not have made a difference. Those guys were our 1-2-3-4 and 7 runners. Several more running the same times as the 1-4 wouldn't have changed much. Top 5 normally ran around 15:45.

CIF & superintendents met and decided that IF there is a fall season it will start no earlier than November. They might have section meets but that will be based on county restrictions but there will be no state meet. XC if they have a season at all will be in the winter, but that depends if school districts are fully in school. My guess is Great Oak won’t be there. My gut also tells me no NXN this year.

What kind of loser cares about a team of HS runners? Almost creepy.

Millions are rioting in the streets with no social distancing. Covid 19 will be forgotten in a week but sports will be impacted by the riots. Teams will be afraid to travel.

Those Sahlmans are hot as hell.

The Young family seem to be conducting some sort of cloning operation.

Brofessor wrote:

What kind of loser cares about a team of HS runners? Almost creepy.

It is crazy how old men here are obsessed about high school

imconfused wrote:

CIF & superintendents met and decided that IF there is a fall season it will start no earlier than November. They might have section meets but that will be based on county restrictions but there will be no state meet. XC if they have a season at all will be in the winter, but that depends if school districts are fully in school. My guess is Great Oak won’t be there. My gut also tells me no NXN this year.

This is not true at all. Nice try though.

More Lies on the MB wrote:

imconfused wrote:

CIF & superintendents met and decided that IF there is a fall season it will start no earlier than November. They might have section meets but that will be based on county restrictions but there will be no state meet. XC if they have a season at all will be in the winter, but that depends if school districts are fully in school. My guess is Great Oak won’t be there. My gut also tells me no NXN this year.

This is not true at all. Nice try though.

What part is “not true at all?”

The CIF statement is 100% accurate. The Great Oak is an assumption of what might happen based on scheduling.

They are looking at still having three seasons but much shorter. Equity of competition is inconsequential as many districts, some in the league, will have different guidelines.

Here are things sports must overcome to start: CDC & County guidelines, State SIP order, budget, district superintendent )fear of law suits if someone gets sick... or dies), and the biggest of all... the Union.

Many unions will not allow employees to go back to the school site unless there is a small group rotation, sterilization crew. Students will need to be tested and daily temperatures taken. This costs money they don’t have. Distance Learning will likely continue due to the budget cuts and lack of federal funding for the extra costs. Older & high risk teachers will work remotely. A hybrid group may be possible.

A school like Great Oak with such a large population but resources bring in a wealthy community may do better than Title 1 schools. But the fact is schools will not be back like nothing happened.

Currently in CA there can only be groups of 12, parents must be essential workers to attend and the coach must stay with that group and coach no others. That said many districts are not allowing any summer conditioning or contact, others are.

You may think comebghe beginning of August everything will just start up normal but you are underestimating the power of unions and the fear school districts have of bring sued.

I have no opinion of GO, but I do teach and coach in California. No meeting happen with CIF saying things will start up in Nov. Just a few days ago CIFSS said they will look at every sport as it' own. It's looking great for cross country.. I was just in a meeting with my school and spoke about the meeting with CIF. No talk about November at all.

Most states are back to practice June 8th. Track meets are starting in Utah and AZ in June. Things will be back and running for cross country in the fall by September. Numbers are good.

billlly22 wrote:

Great Oak will win in 2020. They are much older than Newberry this season. The years after that Newberry destroys everyones. Louden Valley slowly slinks off back into the hole they came from, Unless they get 6 more transfers again.

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If the season and NXN happens in 2020, there certainly are teams that Newbury Park will need to watch out for. They include:

-Great Oak CA. Always reloads and returns some solid guys such as Joseph, Worthy, Simone (who led the team at Woodbridge but ended season early), Montez (who ran a 179.8 speed rating at Woodbridge), and some more guys that can step up. Problem is that only 2 of their guys raced at NXN before (Newbury Park returns 5). So they will need at least 3 NXN-course-inexperienced guys to stick with them during the race; they might be able to win it that way. But they are a good pack-running team and every year they seem to have at least a couple of guys come out of nowhere (last 2 years they had guys go from JV to being their #1 or #2 runner in just a year).

-Bellarmine CA. Placed 5th in the merge in the CA state meet but did not have their best race. Returns everyone. But their lack of depth and lack of previous NXN racers might hold them back.

-Lasalle Academy from RI. Placed 6th but only loses 2 seniors; neither of them finished as high as Young or Aschbrenner at NXN.

And I agree about Loudoun Valley, their boys team won’t make it to NXN with losing 6 of their top 7, unless they seriously reload and perhaps get some good transfers. I think the boys autoqualifiers from the Southeast will be Severna Park from MD (if fall sports happen in MD) and Belen Jesuit Prep from FL, with Satellite from FL making a run at those teams. These 3 teams finished in the top 6 at NXR SE and none of them are losing more than 2 runners.

LV’s girls team will be a lot better than the boys team and has a good chance to qualify for NXN again. And in fact, last year LV girls placed higher at NXN than the boys did and also won NXR by a bigger margin. They are also losing only 2 seniors that races in the NXR Southeast championship race.

Another CA boys team that could make things interesting:

Jesuit.

Placed 4th in the merge in the CA state meet. They lose Strangio but return their 2-5 and add transfer Salcido who was forced to run JV in XC last season due to transfer rules, but he ran a 4:17 mile earlier this year. He or someone will need to step up and take on the roles that Strangio had if they want to challenge Great Oak, Newbury Park, or Bellarmine. They will probably need to finish close to the third CA team in the state meet merge in order to qualify for NXN as the second at-large team.

imconfused wrote:

CIF & superintendents met and decided that IF there is a fall season it will start no earlier than November. They might have section meets but that will be based on county restrictions but there will be no state meet. XC if they have a season at all will be in the winter, but that depends if school districts are fully in school. My guess is Great Oak won’t be there. My gut also tells me no NXN this year.

This is untrue. I'm an AD and as per our meeting with our section commissioner, nothing is set in stone for next season

CoachB wrote:

imconfused wrote:

CIF & superintendents met and decided that IF there is a fall season it will start no earlier than November. They might have section meets but that will be based on county restrictions but there will be no state meet. XC if they have a season at all will be in the winter, but that depends if school districts are fully in school. My guess is Great Oak won’t be there. My gut also tells me no NXN this year.

This is untrue. I'm an AD and as per our meeting with our section commissioner, nothing is set in stone for next season

That's what I have been saying. Don't you love the trolls

Agree they will be in the mix the next 4-5 years, but to repeat in NXN is very tough and expects a lot with talent developing a certain way and how injuries go. If things go well I can see 2 NXN titles in particular when Nico's brothers are juniors and seniors. 4 peat even with people coming from far distances to attend NP is not likely