Kaepernick says in a tweet ...

Flip the situation wrote:

If a black guy kills a police officer in Minneapolis this weekend (could very well happen during this current state) am I supposed to burn down a McDonald's and loot a Walmart?

The cop needs to be arrested, and I believe it's underway. The mayor has asked the county attourney to press charges. The pressure needs to be kept on them, and if the mayor wants to be reelected he needs to stay on it until something. What doesn't need to happen is senseless arson and looting of businesses that have nothing to do with the death of George Floyd.

If a black man or anyone kills a police officer they are subject to punishment by law. They’ll be hunted down without mercy.

The murderer in that scenario is not employed to serve and protect the community, paid for with our taxes,

If you genuinely cannot see how they are very different situations then life is going to be a struggle for you.

Something I don’t get out of ignorance I suppose about kap. I have a co worker whose husband is half black half white. I think his mom is white. But he only associates with being black. Black fraternity, stop being racist shirts, all over social media not only pro black, but damn near anti white. He’s cool with me and stuff but I stay out of the political bs online and in person. His wife just made a comment on Facebook about an article and said something about privileged white people. She’s Hispanic- el Salvador Man if I wrote something about black peoples the way they write about whites people I’d be fired in a second. Kap is the same no? Half black half while. It’s just strange to me how people who are mixed regardless of the two races that they are mixed focus on being one way more than the other and go as far as to almost hate their other half beit Kap or my co workers husband or whoever. I just don’t get it?

derp herp de derp wrote:

breit leit wrote:

If there weren't people who still think that police killing subdued and compliant individuals is justified then there wouldn't be a need for Kaepernick and he'd all but disappear. But from reading the reactions to this most recent incident, we aren't there yet.

There is no need for Kaepernick and he has all but disappeared, hence his attention-seeking outbursts. I doubt you would be defending a conservative calling for violence.

“Defending” is a peculiar choice of words. His tweet was poor. His protest has been proven necessary still. These are not mutually exclusive.

deisell wrote:

"When civility leads to death, revolting is the only logical reaction."

I'm on the fence!

What Kaeperbiff SHOULD do, is revolt against that barber that fvcked up his hair!

Mondo Hondo wrote:

deisell wrote:

"When civility leads to death, revolting is the only logical reaction."

I'm on the fence!

What Kaeperbiff SHOULD do, is revolt against that barber that fvcked up his hair!

Welcome to 2020. Occasionally you'll have to see a black person, even if only on TV or the internet. They may look different than you.

conservative straw man tactic wrote:

Mondo Hondo wrote:

What Kaeperbiff SHOULD do, is revolt against that barber that fvcked up his hair!

Welcome to 2020. Occasionally you'll have to see a black person, even if only on TV or the internet. They may look different than you.

Welcome to 2020. Where you can't even make fun of a black guy's ridiculous looking hairstyle, without some suggestion that you are racist.

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Mondo Hondo wrote:

conservative straw man tactic wrote:

Welcome to 2020. Occasionally you'll have to see a black person, even if only on TV or the internet. They may look different than you.

Welcome to 2020. Where you can't even make fun of a black guy's ridiculous looking hairstyle, without some suggestion that you are racist.

You can make fun of anything if you have a good sense of humor, but you failed there. What's so ridiculous about it?

Does anybody understand statistics?

So one of these happens every few months it seems like.

So 1 event happening every few months in a country of 330 million people. Wtf? How does that prove "we" are holding down "them" or whatever.

Then these black lives matters peeps are throwing all white people in the same boat and saying we're privileged, holding them down and stuff.

It's just so negative. Why do people associate so much with this racial identity stuff?

Now, those cops should be fired as they were and arrested/indicted. But I don't like all this race identity stuff. It's bad news.

deisell wrote:

"When civility leads to death, revolting is the only logical reaction."

I'm on the fence!

i know some cops, they worked out in the gym I used to frequent.

According to them...

The problem is black men bailing on their families and the repurcussions of that. Kaepernick should have protested why are 70% of black children are born to unwed mothers.

Young black men with no father figures in the home, where does that lead? All the problems blacks cause the police does what for their attitude towards them? They pull over a black man they are already pissed off.

Until black men accept responsibilities for their actions it's never going t get any better.

YES YES those cops should be in jail, and none of them ever see another day of freedom.

This may blow your mind, but what your gym buddies said is “the problem” AND police accountability could both be issues worth addressing.

conservative straw man tactic wrote:

Mondo Hondo wrote:

Welcome to 2020. Where you can't even make fun of a black guy's ridiculous looking hairstyle, without some suggestion that you are racist.

You can make fun of anything if you have a good sense of humor, but you failed there. What's so ridiculous about it?

No, I didn't fail. Somewhat cleverly incorporated his own awkward, semi-literate use of "revolt" into a fair, and relatively unhurtful jibe at his stupid looking hairdoo. It was you who had to get smarmy and play the race card with the suggestion that I've only seen black people on TV. You failed there. People who play the race card always fail, dude.

You're absolutely right. Completely different scenarios. The black man killing a cop is doing it as a reactionary revenge killing against (what is likely to be) an unintentional death. The cop is routinely forced into heated sometimes violent scenarios as a result of his profession and is expected to be a 100% zero-error machine when making decisions, put his life on the line for what barely qualifies as a salary, and live under constant scrutiny. When the officer makes an error in judgement he's got watchdog groups fanning flames and calling for his death. Someone revenge killing a cop isn't exactly likely to undergo the same level of scrutiny.

Here's what's the same. They'll both be prosecuted according to the law (if they can be found, in certain scenarios).

Now ask this. Since the officer(s) were fired, an investigation is underway, and even if found guilty of the highest possible offense, one side of the line still won't be happy: why is there rioting right now? You know, since the legal wheel is rolling, rational individuals would be waiting to hear the results of the trial, right? Why is there rioting? You literally can't (shouldn't, anyways) arrest someone until you're certain you have enough evidence to make a case lest you risk them walking. So why is there rioting, in your mind, right now? Why would someone kill a cop right now?

Have fun fanning your flames. Hope you don't end up in some friendly fire. Not likely since you're probably some upper class white dude far away from the chaos you're creating.

Swaglord_the_real_one wrote:

Does anybody understand statistics?

So one of these happens every few months it seems like.

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That's what it seems like to you because you live in your little bubble and you only find out about the most egregious cases that get caught on video. You should speak to your black friends (if you have any) in order to get a better sense of the true extent of the problem.

Just because you don't notice until a gruesome murder takes place, or a dog gets choked or a store gets looted doesn't mean there aren't people struggling with this sort of nonsense as part of their daily lives.

Violence is NOT the answer wrote:

deisell wrote:

"When civility leads to death, revolting is the only logical reaction."

I'm on the fence!

For a man that had a platform and an opportunity to create positive change he failed miserably.

Revolting will do nothing good. It is simply ridiculous to think violence is the answer.

Failed? The man’s an icon of sports protesting civil injustice. One of just a handful. He’s the only modern holdover cast from the same mould as Jesse Owens, Muhammad Ali, Tommie Smith and John Carlos.

Assuming you're being sincere (sorry it's hard to tell sometimes in this mess of a website) - a big part of that has to do with racism towards people of color; that is, for racist white people, someone who's half black, half-white is not considered white at all but is looked at as essentially equally "objectionable" as a 100% black person. Whereas most black people tend to be much more inclusive in their definition of who's black. Does that make sense? So this tendency towards identifying with the minority is usually a direct result of having been excluded by the majority in the first place.

An example: Obama is the 1st black president of the USA.

Who is the 44th white president of the USA?

If you say Obama, everyone will think you're insane. He's not white, he's black, obviously! Even though is is literally 50% white. You see how that works? And this weird way of ascribing race has become so pervasive throughout America that people don't even notice it.

breit leit wrote:

If there weren't people who still think that police killing subdued and compliant individuals is justified then there wouldn't be a need for Kaepernick and he'd all but disappear. But from reading the reactions to this most recent incident, we aren't there yet.

Apparently revolution could only be justified as a means to colonise countries, decimate the native populations and make servants of the rest....

....other than that people should suck it up when they are murdered

El Keniano wrote:

Failed? The man’s an icon of sports protesting civil injustice. One of just a handful. He’s the only modern holdover cast from the same mould as Jesse Owens, Muhammad Ali, Tommie Smith and John Carlos.

https://twitter.com/berniceking/status/1265415976809627650?s=21

Awesome analogy, could not describe it better than that tweet

America is a true melting pot and very few are 100% anything.

Race is a social construct, so most people tend to identify with how they present physically. So someone like Obama is black because he looks black. He has written about how he used to get followed around stores and how white women would cross the street to avoid him. He'd be in as much danger if he were ever stopped by the police who wouldn't have time to check his biological DNA.

Don't forget there's also a long history of 'passing' by offspring of mixed parentage who look white. In places like Brazil and most of Latin America, that practice is actively encouraged. Race has been weaponised to engender a collective inferiority complex that observes this arbitrary hierarchy. People there openly aspire to be white and strive to erase all traces of blackness. Most racists would prefer a return to a similar status quo, which is why the only people who imply people like Kaepernick or Kamala Harris aren't "black enough" are usually white racists like Donald Trump Jr, not the black community.