Did most high school track and XC runners ran in middle school?

david45 wrote:

all eyez on me wrote:

no you didnt. you're really suffering from lack of talent.

I was not kidding when I said I had a stress fracture. By the third week of summer training, I was limping and could barely walk.

maybe you need a second opinion

all eyez on me wrote:

david45 wrote:

I was not kidding when I said I had a stress fracture. By the third week of summer training, I was limping and could barely walk.

maybe you need a second opinion

Second opinion? My doctor confirmed I had a stress fracture?

No, there were no sanctioned middle school sports where I grew up in California (San Jose). If anyone did a sport in middle school, it was a club sport that had nothing to do with school. I did soccer from around 2nd grade through 7th grade. None of the kids that ran at my high school (mid-'80s) ran in middle school, and none of the kids at my high school when I assisted/volunteered for a while in the '90s ran in middle school (but the team was good enough win a CA state title in cross country).

david45 wrote:

Second opinion? My doctor confirmed I had a stress fracture?

She most likely misdiagnosed you.

all eyez on me wrote:

david45 wrote:

Second opinion? My doctor confirmed I had a stress fracture?

She most likely misdiagnosed you.

How would you know? I literally saw the MRI image myself, and there was a giant crack

For the sake of advancing the conversation, let's say you did have a stress fracture. Probably combination of

1. Trying to do too much too soon

2. Poor diet

3. Poor footwear

4. Poor form

So these are the main factors of your "injury prone"ness.

1. is unfortunate, you didn't know better, now you know that doing too much isn't good. The rest are easily fixable, but you're so stubborn and in so much denial that you refuse to change these easily fixable things.

tl dr you aren't injury prone, you just do like every possible thing wrong.

thiscupisnthaflfull wrote:

For the sake of advancing the conversation, let's say you did have a stress fracture. Probably combination of

1. Trying to do too much too soon

2. Poor diet

3. Poor footwear

4. Poor form

So these are the main factors of your "injury prone"ness.

1. is unfortunate, you didn't know better, now you know that doing too much isn't good. The rest are easily fixable, but you're so stubborn and in so much denial that you refuse to change these easily fixable things.

tl dr you aren't injury prone, you just do like every possible thing wrong.

Except getting injured is why I didn't make it onto the XC team

That wasn't the point of the branch of this conversation. You were saying you don't want to increase mileage because you get injured, that you're injury prone.

You're only prone to injury because you actively set yourself up for injury by making poor choices in various places.

Seriously, your poor reading comprehension and critical thinking ability are also reasons why people find you EXTREMELY difficult to communicate with.

thiscupisnthaflfull wrote:

Seriously, your poor reading comprehension and critical thinking ability are also reasons why people find you EXTREMELY difficult to communicate with.

that's due to lack of talent

david45 wrote:

Except getting injured is why I didn't make it onto the XC team

David, I've coached for over 20 years at the HS level and I can tell you with 100% certainty that being injury prone is not the reason you were cut from the team. That may be what the coach told you, but it wasn't the real reason.

You've bee told exactly you need in order to improve. We've told you 1000 times on the 500 threads that you have started. Please just listen and stop this repeat posting nonsense.

david45 wrote:

thiscupisnthaflfull wrote:

No, you aren't injury prone.

You're just a whiny guy who can't handle soreness, in addition to not wearing proper running shoes, a terrible diet, and most likely poor form.

Shut up. I went from just doing PE to running 20 MPW in summer training. I was obviously going to get injured.

This is not an obvious cause and effect relationship. Many people go from zero to 20 mpw and don't get injured. It happens all the time. People think, "Hey, I should go out and run a marathon," and they go out and do it. They may run it slowly, and they may only build up to 30 mpw in training, but they can do it without getting injured because they are humans.

To answer your original question: No, most HS runners probablt didn't train for running at all. Most middle schoolers don't train for running at all. Most high schoolers don't train for running at all. Most people never train for running at all. Most people that start running probably start in their 20's or 30's.

A fracture that is visible as a crack would have completely disabled you and been visible via Xray. An MRI would not be ordered after that. If Xray showed nothing, then an MRI may be ordered but even that is not always useful unless the body has started to heal. But there is never an incidence where an MRI would show a visible crack. You are not being honest David. You have a history of changing your stories.

a lot of middle school xc+ track teams get kids running a few days a week, but nothing more. Just running a few days a week I barely improved from 6 to 8th grade, but even on a not super intensive high school team I still quickly progressed.

david45 wrote:

faster American wrote:

yes.

So if someone didn't find out they liked running earlier, they are screwed?

NO! I'm a freshman in highschool who never did xc and never did track. I broke 5 in winter and ran 4:49 this summer

faster American wrote:

A fracture that is visible as a crack would have completely disabled you and been visible via Xray. An MRI would not be ordered after that. If Xray showed nothing, then an MRI may be ordered but even that is not always useful unless the body has started to heal. But there is never an incidence where an MRI would show a visible crack. You are not being honest David. You have a history of changing your stories.

Either way, the doctor said I have a stress fracture.

I didn't run cross country until after getting hurt playing football senior year. Then ran Juco and DII. Most of the kids on the team started running in 9th grade. This was the early 80's.

I ran 14 seconds for the 100 in middle school and absolutely hated running or any sports for that matter.

Then I raced once and got kinda hooked, also I ran a 12.45 100 as a distance guy so I guess I improved, wonder how much faster I could get

Well, I couldn't run by the third week of summer training because of how much my leg hurts

David, you nee to leave. Really. You aren't the first person on LRC that we have run off. Your self pity and repeated nonsense has been old and lame for a while now. You've had your fun, now move along.