This is the MOST disturbing police brutality video I’ve ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good thing there'll be an investigation to figure it out.

To be fair, I do believe the officers were placed on leave, not fired as per normal guidelines.

Poster #512 wrote:

It genuinely looked to me like he was barely pushing on the guy. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm guessing the officer felt he needed physical restraint for some reason, that was it.

It only takes a couple of pounds of pressure to cut off the carotid artery. The officer wouldn't have to exert much more force than simply balancing himself to cause unconsciousness.

The police officer has his knee on the back of the neck, not the throat. I don't see how that is keeping that guy from breathing. Also there's no way of knowing how much force the officer is applying on the back of the neck.

Also he was able to speak at first, if he cannot breath he would not be talking.

Minneapolis wrote:

They were fired after the mayor watched a video. None of the investigation that always follows a death in custody. Even the cops who just happened to be there, were fired. The mayor then practically ordered the DA to file murder charges, and strongly suggest the guy wasn't do his job because he hadn't charged cops with murder a day after the death. The national media, even Fox News, have decided they are guilty without seeing any evidence other than the viral video (we don't even have most of the evidence yet). These guys are done. You would have to be incredibly naive to think any of them receive fairness or due process. If that's the way society wants these things to go from now on, so be it. But we should at least admit it.

Keeping your job doesn't require due process.

Cops should be held to a higher standard of behavior than the rest of us.

Poster #512 wrote:

To be fair, I do believe the officers were placed on leave, not fired as per normal guidelines.

I believe they have all been summarily fired. Even the ones who were called as backup and were just trying to keep crowds back.

Poster #512 wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

Yes. Once in cuffs and face down on the ground the officer could have put his knee on the suspects back if he felt he needed/wanted to pin the guy to the floor. The guy isn't going anywhere.

What actually happened was a slow agonizing death for the victim.

The US doesn't realise how behind it is in some areas. People still think it's the Wild West and 'outlaws' should be gunned down by the Sheriff in the street, rather than apprehended, taken to custody safely and face trial in court.

Well, he died 1-2 hours after the video, so that much at least you're wrong about. Unless you're talking about some agony he experienced all the way to his death at the hospital.

He died on the street. You can see it. It’s horrible to have to point it out, but there were blatant physical signs that he had died. It’s normal for time of death to be recorded as being at the hospital, because they declare it there after attempting any resuscitation and life support measures.

Poster #512 wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

Yes. Once in cuffs and face down on the ground the officer could have put his knee on the suspects back if he felt he needed/wanted to pin the guy to the floor. The guy isn't going anywhere.

What actually happened was a slow agonizing death for the victim.

The US doesn't realise how behind it is in some areas. People still think it's the Wild West and 'outlaws' should be gunned down by the Sheriff in the street, rather than apprehended, taken to custody safely and face trial in court.

Well, he died 1-2 hours after the video, so that much at least you're wrong about. Unless you're talking about some agony he experienced all the way to his death at the hospital.

Yeah I would call 1-2 hours of suffering the post effects of crushed trachea/ruptured veins/arteries an agonizing death. On top of the 5 minutes of the actual application of force.

Maybe you wish for a similar death? Is that a preferred way for you to die?

I don’t need the investigation to know that it was inappropriate - just to help determine how inappropriate it was.

Sorry, not worse than Rodney King.

Dave- wrote:

The police officer has his knee on the back of the neck, not the throat. I don't see how that is keeping that guy from breathing. Also there's no way of knowing how much force the officer is applying on the back of the neck.

Also he was able to speak at first, if he cannot breath he would not be talking.

Maybe the officer is as unfamiliar with human biology as you are.

Inside the head there is a (little in your case) something called a brain. It requires a supply of fresh oxygenated blood to function and also for waste products to be removed.

The neck is the bridge between the heart and lungs and the brain. By crushing it with the weight of a man over a small area like a knee you will without doubt damage or temporarily block any number of critical arteries and veins. A few minutes without adequate blood supply to the brain causes irreversible brain damage or death, even after blood supply can return to the brain.

'I can't breathe' was probably the response that made most sense to the deceased, whether he was able to still get air into his lungs or not. You would feel a sense of impending doom that can't really be vocalised as "I'm experiencing brain death due to the lack of blood supply to my brain" whilst some idiot is sat on your neck.

Natt Turner wrote:

To me it’s worse than Rodney King and even the several videos of cops shooting unarmed black men in the back. It’s truly SICKENING!!! It stands out because you can see the life slowly leave this mans body. The victim and several bystanders begged this evil son of a b*tch cop to lift his knee off his neck. This is bad...really bad!!

Did the video you watched show him resisting arrest and the fight to get him on the ground?

Did the video mention he was 6foot 6 and under the influence?

Did the video mention he was a violent felon that served time in Texas Prison for home invasion?

brian_ wrote:

[quote]Natt Turner wrote:

Did the video mention he was a violent felon that served time in Texas Prison for home invasion?

They are never quite the people the media rushes to make them out to be. Arbery is a "jogger," this guy is a "gentle giant." Good grief. He's a violent convict who left his daughter in Texas and moved to Minnesota because it hands out welfare much easier than Texas.

Which part of what either of you said allows the cop to continue to apply force after he’s subdued on the ground in handcuffs?

Minneapolis wrote:

brian_ wrote:

[quote]Natt Turner wrote:

Did the video mention he was a violent felon that served time in Texas Prison for home invasion?

They are never quite the people the media rushes to make them out to be. Arbery is a "jogger," this guy is a "gentle giant." Good grief. He's a violent convict who left his daughter in Texas and moved to Minnesota because it hands out welfare much easier than Texas.

Again, the Wild West mentality in the US is holding it back in social development. You can't call yourself a developed country and think it is okay for the 'Sherrif' to kill the 'outlaws' in the street.

Who cares if the guy was a felon at some point in the past. The point is unnecessary lethal force was used on your streets by the police, and this guy never faced trial.

The officer was judge, jury and executioner.

Minneapolis wrote:

brian_ wrote:

Did the video mention he was a violent felon that served time in Texas Prison for home invasion?

They are never quite the people the media rushes to make them out to be. Arbery is a "jogger," this guy is a "gentle giant." Good grief. He's a violent convict who left his daughter in Texas and moved to Minnesota because it hands out welfare much easier than Texas.

He was a handcuffed and subdued individual that died from the action of the police. You're showing you're biases.

breit leit wrote:

I don’t need the investigation to know that it was inappropriate - just to help determine how inappropriate it was.

Touche´. Exactly.

ex-runner wrote:

Again, the Wild West mentality in the US is holding it back in social development. You can't call yourself a developed country and think it is okay for the 'Sherrif' to kill the 'outlaws' in the street.

Who cares if the guy was a felon at some point in the past. The point is unnecessary lethal force was used on your streets by the police, and this guy never faced trial.

The officer was judge, jury and executioner.

All I can say is, wow. You could cut and paste this to the BLM website and get all thumbs up. Guess it's safe to say that you hate cops, huh?

Minneapolis wrote:

brian_ wrote:

[quote]Natt Turner wrote:

Did the video mention he was a violent felon that served time in Texas Prison for home invasion?

They are never quite the people the media rushes to make them out to be. Arbery is a "jogger," this guy is a "gentle giant." Good grief. He's a violent convict who left his daughter in Texas and moved to Minnesota because it hands out welfare much easier than Texas.

It doesn't matter. Who pointed out he was in a prison? Why do you think they thought it relevant? You're being groomed into thinking because this guy is a "baddie" this level of violence isn't going to be used on you. And it isn't. But not for that reason.