A bunch of HSer are going to try to go sub-4 in the mile on Saturday (May 23)

I mean, I'm not but I'm optimistic for their futures & don't feel like this is the time to find out what their mile potential is if it means traveling out of state & unnecessarily putting others at risk for COVID.

Grow up. Enjoy life. It is too short. Encourage these kids.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/21/500-doctors-tell-donald-trump-end-coronavirus-shut/

coach of fasty wrote:

Grow up. Enjoy life. It is too short. Encourage these kids.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/21/500-doctors-tell-donald-trump-end-coronavirus-shut/

This wasn't doctors who got organized to do this. It was the other way around. For the last couple of weeks, Tiny and his minions have been trolling for doctors who would say they support him. Apparently he only found 500.

But our medical advice should come from our individual doctor even if it means killing our own child. So if each of the 7 competitors in the race this Saturday have a doctor who told them to go run, then you should butt out.

Looking at the forecast, these boys aren't getting a break with the weather on Saturday. Looks like it's going to be a warm, windy day, with steady 10 mph wind pretty much all day. They might have to wait it out and go late in the day/evening to see if that wind drops down enough to give them a better shot.

SuperSickSeven wrote:

Looking at the forecast, these boys aren't getting a break with the weather on Saturday. Looks like it's going to be a warm, windy day, with steady 10 mph wind pretty much all day. They might have to wait it out and go late in the day/evening to see if that wind drops down enough to give them a better shot.

I saw that it is scheduled at 815 pm I think

Even Webb didn't break 1:50 so I am wildly enthusiastic about Daschbach's chances here. Totally a shame that the Nico Young isn't there.

His coach can't take the chance of having him lose.

NERunner053 wrote:

So after exposing themselves to get to a location they're going to race against people they haven't been self-isolating with? This seems a bit reckless. I know they're lower risk but it seems like a giant middle finger to put your own interests over the rest of us.

Webb ran sub 1:48 in HS....

Some of these responses are a bit laughable. C'mon guys, quit it with the partisan responses. Medical guidelines are not partisan. It's not about you categorizing my feelings a type of way to make yourself feel better. There is a genuine safety concern here. These kids aren't above every race being canceled across America. If I had a kid I wouldn't be crossing state lines, putting myself, my family, and others, at increased risk. If you don't care, that's fine. I'm into being a bit more communal & I'm ok with that.

Communal? You are the opposite. All of the recent information is proving that lockdowns are causing additional deaths from suicide and robbery/murders and domestic abuse. Distancing was intended to save lives only in that hospitals would not be overwhelmed. It was intended to flatten the curve meaning the same number would be infected but over a longer period of time. Hospitals are not overwhelmed. States are open. Movie theaters are open. Bars are open. Gyms are open. Youth sports have started. I hate to disappoint you, but these kids and their parents are role models for what can be done.

There’s really no problem with “crossing state lines” if they don’t come in contact with anyone. I would be surprised if some of the drive there. Which in most regards is completely safe. There’s really no reason for them not to do this, they’ve probably been thinking about a sub 4 mile since at least last year and don’t want this opportunity truly taken from them.

runnerofruns wrote:

Webb ran sub 1:48 in HS....

Correct. Dude is one of the fastest 800M runners ever in HS. How fast people forget....

NERunner053 wrote:

I mean, I'm not but I'm optimistic for their futures & don't feel like this is the time to find out what their mile potential is if it means traveling out of state & unnecessarily putting others at risk for COVID.

No one is putting you at risk. Grow up and grow a pair. Coward.

coach of fasty wrote:

Communal? You are the opposite. All of the recent information is proving that lockdowns are causing additional deaths from suicide and robbery/murders and domestic abuse. Distancing was intended to save lives only in that hospitals would not be overwhelmed. It was intended to flatten the curve meaning the same number would be infected but over a longer period of time. Hospitals are not overwhelmed. States are open. Movie theaters are open. Bars are open. Gyms are open. Youth sports have started. I hate to disappoint you, but these kids and their parents are role models for what can be done.

Health care workers are so burdened yet still have the time to put out their elaborate tik tok dance routines and wolf down on all the free pizza deliveries.

who had better range than webb in U.S. prep history? uh, nobody ...

148, 353, 845 ... i'm not sure of his 400 split, but i would guess in the 47-48 range ...

coach of fasty wrote:

He ran 4:09 as a soph so I wouldn't worry too much. I am curious about his age and college eligibility. He tested out of high school and started college. He then went back to high school. Is his eligibility clock already ticking?

Perfect for BYU. He can start his 12 years of eligibility as a 22 year old.

Just because things are opening doesn't mean the risk goes down. This seems to be a pretty risky situation for several kids from different areas to come together in close contact during a race. Make no mistake this isn't the same as a solo time trial each one of these individuals will be infecting the others if they are a carrier (remember asymptomatic carriers are still a thing too) and since they don't know if the others have truly been in quarantine they are taking a big risk.

I know that people will say it doesn't affect people their age but that is not a fact. Anyone paying attention can see the real experts admit that they don't know everything about this disease and enough people have gotten really sick in young adult age brackets that it isn't a stretch to imagine an 18 year could be affected. Even taking out the idea of death some new studies show a risk of reduced lung capacity (I'm not a doctor and don't recall the exact terms) being a result of having this.

Again it looks like they are putting safeguards in place but considering all of these athletes have potential and promising futures these seems like a unnecessary risk. If they want to run a solo time trial and give it a shot, cool but this is a risky endeavor. These are the kinds of things that can set back communities which also increases the risk of their being no fall season if we can't get this under control