Kenyan paper: Athletics Kenya official asks for doping to be declared a treasonable offense - which requires the death penalty

Ah yes our experience with The War On Drugs really proves your point!!

douglas burke wrote:

Yes I want it in All Sports, If the Punishment is extreme enough, it would deter people from doing it, so hopef

You are not a lawyer, true wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Prosecuting crimes to conviction requires a much higher standard of proof than you apply.

Which planet does this apply to so universally?

Am election in Kenya can bring out bows and arrows to settle things.

I'm not sure what your question is. If it helps, the "requirement" required is "ideal".

For context the "you" in that sentence is Coevett. On the one hand, we have what is (ideally) "required to prosecute crimes to conviction", and on the other side, we have Coevett making many claims of guilt applying a much lower standard, as high as his butt and his gut, but not as high as his heart and his brain.

If we want an "even playing field", we should apply the criminal convictions universally (on this planet, Earth, where we have World Championships). Which standard of proof is appropriate? Given the severity of the proposed penalties, it must be even higher than today's anti-doping standards to ensure that no one is falsely convicted.

People would still take the chance and hope not to be caught even if the punishment was the death penalty.

One important missing fact is that we don't really know when Kiprop started doping.

We can't put a price on what he did without first knowing that. There is a big difference if doping started pre-2008 Olympics, versus post-2015 season.

This renders the example of Kiprop meaningless, in virtually every meaningful sense.

Similarly, we don't know the cause of these deaths was from doping.

The problem of doping is bigger than it should be because much of what is said about doping is not based on what is known. Rather than the death penalty and prison, we should work on education and prevention, in parallel with more effective testing and harsher penalties for the worst cases.

You really are a disgusting person.

Btw., if it turns out you are a paid shill, you should get life in prison.

Under existing UK laws.

People rightly criticize many aspects of the world government attempts. In some cases, a correct answer exists, and it makes little sense to watch humanity fail over and over with alternate approaches.

The death penalty is a philosophical topic I think fully answered as wrong. I disagree in general with bloodlust or physical abuse. The worst human imaginable still does not deserve brain damage as a penalty. No government of course deserves the right to decide who lives and dies.

I thought he said "treatable."

Coevett wrote:

You really are a disgusting person.

This is ironic coming from someone who suggests demolishing villages or even bringing in punishments for those who watch Kenyan dopers.

Coevett wrote:

Btw., if it turns out you are a paid shill, you should get life in prison.

Under existing UK laws.

But I'm not. "Paid shill" is just one of many delusions.

And for which crime? I am simply a messenger of information which can be found publicly, and which information cannot.

rekrunner wrote:

Coevett wrote:

You really are a disgusting person.

This is ironic coming from someone who suggests demolishing villages or even bringing in punishments for those who watch Kenyan dopers.

Yeah I gave up on this thread early once Coevett suggested that villages of innocent people should be destroyed if someone who lives there is caught doping.

Despicable comments and there is no room for intelligent debate with someone who makes statements like that.

Moreover, I am not subject to UK laws.