Stupidest Workout Ever? - 4x 1600m w/2:30 recovery - 4:52, 4:55, 4:55, 4:57

Nonsense! wrote:

Why on earth would anyone do mile repeats with each one getting slower? This is exactly how you train your body to die in a race. Talented girl with fast times, but the coaching is pure sh*t!

https://tx.milesplit.com/articles/279945-brynn-brown-with-insane-sub-5-min-4-x-mile-repeats?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email

Probably shooting for 4:55, hit 4:52 then decided to hit pace, hit 4:57 on the last one because they were a bit tired. Great workout.

That's not considered a cut-down ... yeah, if it were 800s or below ... but that's not what she's doing ... Clearly, she is running 4 x mile @ 4:55 ... that's all it is. Not a cut down (or up) ... again, you're a little too freaked by the "slowing" down ... why? If those were her splits in a 4-mile race, I (and any college coach) would be ecstatic and call her the "human metronome" ... that's pretty darn even-splits in my book.

I think the most important thing here is that this workout indicates 15:30 5k fitness. Probably 9:40 or so for 3200m

Nonsense, have you ever run in your life, let alone done a mile workout on paths/road? Great session.

For your enjoyment Han Solo:

A PR of 9:58 (let's assume 10:00 to make math easier).

We can say that 100% of her vVo2 max is 5:00 per mile.

Based on the workout, she's running at roughly 102% & taking a 1:1/2 rest. Two things stand out:

1) The interval session is a bit too long as most research states you don't need to go more than 3-minutes for an interval.

2) The rest typically prescribed is 1:1

The fact that she can maintain each mile with a longer than normal time spent at "VO2" and a less than ideal rest shows that Brynn was in phenomenal shape when she ran this. So when the original poster called the coaching "pure sh!t", clearly there is a lack of understanding about what's happening physiologically. To make any sort of substantial claim though, you would also need HR data and lactate data to determine just how "intense" the workout was.

I agree.....preach it!!!!!

sir scrohan wrote:

I think the most important thing here is that this workout indicates 15:30 5k fitness. Probably 9:40 or so for 3200m

What is everyone smoking here? That workout does not indicate at all she is in 15:30 5k fitness. Did anyone watch the whole workout????? She was on 4:40 pace the first 400m on each and sub 4:50 at 800m on each, and faded the last 800m on everyone. So let me get this straight, she is going to run a 5k starting each mile at 4:40 pace.?!?! Oh....ok......sure! Nonsense is right, stupid workout! No one is looking out for this talented kid. Sad

Yes 15:30. Pull together 5 high school boys tomorrow who have PRs ranging from 15 to 16 minutes. 2 of them won't complete the workout.

7empest wrote:

sir scrohan wrote:

I think the most important thing here is that this workout indicates 15:30 5k fitness. Probably 9:40 or so for 3200m

What is everyone smoking here? That workout does not indicate at all she is in 15:30 5k fitness. Did anyone watch the whole workout????? She was on 4:40 pace the first 400m on each and sub 4:50 at 800m on each, and faded the last 800m on everyone. So let me get this straight, she is going to run a 5k starting each mile at 4:40 pace.?!?! Oh....ok......sure! Nonsense is right, stupid workout! No one is looking out for this talented kid. Sad

Exactly. The workout serves no useful purpose other than to show off for Milesplit and say look what I can do. I still would like to know what she is training for and why she is busting mile intervals in May with no HS championships looming.

run more not less wrote:

Yes 15:30. Pull together 5 high school boys tomorrow who have PRs ranging from 15 to 16 minutes. 2 of them won't complete the workout.

I can list a ton of girls who could do this useless, poorly paced workout, but their coaches would not be stupid enough to let them do it! Tuohy, Starliper, Thorvaldson, Dudek, Whittaker, Hart......and on and on

Nico's coach said the reasoning was to put him in a well in the very beginning because that is exactly how his race would end up going at millrose. That was 3k simulation workout and it was 10 days out from millrose.

7empest wrote:

sir scrohan wrote:

I think the most important thing here is that this workout indicates 15:30 5k fitness. Probably 9:40 or so for 3200m

What is everyone smoking here? That workout does not indicate at all she is in 15:30 5k fitness. Did anyone watch the whole workout????? She was on 4:40 pace the first 400m on each and sub 4:50 at 800m on each, and faded the last 800m on everyone. So let me get this straight, she is going to run a 5k starting each mile at 4:40 pace.?!?! Oh....ok......sure! Nonsense is right, stupid workout! No one is looking out for this talented kid. Sad

In a race obviously she will just sit behind the person going out in 73 and kick it home to run 15:10 or so. That stupid pacing makes it an even more impressive work out. Now some people can just do stupidly hard workouts. They just recover quicker during the breaks.

This seems like a pretty standard workout. Worrying about 2s ranges in mile repeats is crossing over into crazy land. And without knowing if she is doing this every week or every 3rd week, I wouldn't comment on if this is a good time for this workout.

That would be TERRIBLE if she runs a 4:47/4:53 split 9:40 2 mile. Everybody knows with PROPER pacing she is in shape to run 4:51/4:47 9:38. That poor pacing could cost her a national record.

Nonsense! wrote:

Why on earth would anyone do mile repeats with each one getting slower? This is exactly how you train your body to die in a race. Talented girl with fast times, but the coaching is pure sh*t!

https://tx.milesplit.com/articles/279945-brynn-brown-with-insane-sub-5-min-4-x-mile-repeats?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email

Nonsense, you are a special kind of stupid, but at least you picked a perfect name for yourself.

Not married Cain wrote:

That would be TERRIBLE if she runs a 4:47/4:53 split 9:40 2 mile. Everybody knows with PROPER pacing she is in shape to run 4:51/4:47 9:38. That poor pacing could cost her a national record.

Well on a track instead of the combo grass/concrete loop, she will be 1s/lap quicker so she will break the record. Of course we might also learn those loops are 1550m and not 1600m:)

That’s an insane workout to run as a high schooler , you really gonna freak out about five seconds , Yeah she should have dropped a 4:40 on the last one right? because maintaining a sub five effort for 4 miles of threshold is clearly a horribly coached workout. Running on the grass it’s difficult to to find your pace to, I’m sure it took a rep or two to fin d the that mid 4:50 range

1:2 rest, bro. You are a complete moran.

I'm more interested why she chose to do the workout in Next%'s?

Expensive shoes for a workout!

I think her rest interval is too long. She should have only 60 seconds or 90 seconds at the most if the goal is endurance development (such as for a 5K). She is operating anaerobically at the beginning of each repeat as shown by her splits at the 800 being so fast. If the goal of the set is improved mile performance I think she should be doing shorter repeats with the type of longer rest interval used here.