The official (and only) Ahmaud Arbery thread

shavas wrote:

Ward Cleaver wrote:

Ron, and your parents - what is the issue with Stefan Molyneux? I have never heard of the guy and didn't heard him share anything new and didn't feel either stated anything outlandish. The guy being interviewed stated a couple times he was unsure of some things because he isn't a lawyer and wasn't completely sure about GA law.

What makes this video "the stupidest pile of krapp I've sen yet, and why do you feel the younger guy is an idiot?

The people who call Stefan a racist and worse are the same people who call Trump a nazi when there is zero supporting evidence Stefan speaks intelligently and logically using facts on a variety of subjects and makes no effort to appease or bend the knee to the woke crowd or those using strong feelings as the basis of having moral superiority over those with different viewpoints. He does speak on race and about the race baiting the left uses to create racial division and how the left will call anyone, especially white males, who may be completely polically center, racist for commenting on anything racial related. Ie. when talking about crime and Stefan comments that blacks commit 10x + more violent crime, murder, rape etc. per population and tries to analyze the reason for this large discrepancy, he is called racist by leftist even though he is talking factually and expressing no supremecist viewpoints. He has also talked about race and IQ although he does not claim to be an expert on the subject. but has interviewed scientist who are experts on the subject. Different populations, countries, ethnic groups have different IQ's and IQ research is actually the most researched and understood area of pyschology and has the most direct relation to outcomes of how a person might do in life. Ie how they do in jobs, education, family life, relationships, crime etc... and even though ethnic Europeans are no where near the top of the IQ curve, Stefan takes heat for that from leftist (which he roundly ignores). The racist card has been played to death by the left and I don't think many take them seriosly anymore even though they are loud and beat their war drums constantly.

gdeegz wrote:

shavas wrote:

The people who call Stefan a racist and worse are the same people who call Trump a nazi when there is zero supporting evidence Stefan speaks intelligently and logically using facts on a variety of subjects and makes no effort to appease or bend the knee to the woke crowd or those using strong feelings as the basis of having moral superiority over those with different viewpoints. He does speak on race and about the race baiting the left uses to create racial division and how the left will call anyone, especially white males, who may be completely polically center, racist for commenting on anything racial related. Ie. when talking about crime and Stefan comments that blacks commit 10x + more violent crime, murder, rape etc. per population and tries to analyze the reason for this large discrepancy, he is called racist by leftist even though he is talking factually and expressing no supremecist viewpoints. He has also talked about race and IQ although he does not claim to be an expert on the subject. but has interviewed scientist who are experts on the subject. Different populations, countries, ethnic groups have different IQ's and IQ research is actually the most researched and understood area of pyschology and has the most direct relation to outcomes of how a person might do in life. Ie how they do in jobs, education, family life, relationships, crime etc... and even though ethnic Europeans are no where near the top of the IQ curve, Stefan takes heat for that from leftist (which he roundly ignores). The racist card has been played to death by the left and I don't think many take them seriosly anymore even though they are loud and beat their war drums constantly.

Just glancing at his twitter confirms Stefan is a f*cking idiot. And no, I don't think Trump is a Nazi.

shavas wrote:

Ward Cleaver wrote:

Ron, and your parents - what is the issue with Stefan Molyneux? I have never heard of the guy and didn't heard him share anything new and didn't feel either stated anything outlandish. The guy being interviewed stated a couple times he was unsure of some things because he isn't a lawyer and wasn't completely sure about GA law.

What makes this video "the stupidest pile of krapp I've sen yet, and why do you feel the younger guy is an idiot?

The people who call Stefan a racist and worse are the same people who call Trump a nazi when there is zero supporting evidence Stefan speaks intelligently and logically using facts on a variety of subjects and makes no effort to appease or bend the knee to the woke crowd or those using strong feelings as the basis of having moral superiority over those with different viewpoints. He does speak on race and about the race baiting the left uses to create racial division and how the left will call anyone, especially white males, who may be completely polically center, racist for commenting on anything racial related. Ie. when talking about crime and Stefan comments that blacks commit 10x + more violent crime, murder, rape etc. per population and tries to analyze the reason for this large discrepancy, he is called racist by leftist even though he is talking factually and expressing no supremecist viewpoints. He has also talked about race and IQ although he does not claim to be an expert on the subject. but has interviewed scientist who are experts on the subject. Different populations, countries, ethnic groups have different IQ's and IQ research is actually the most researched and understood area of pyschology and has the most direct relation to outcomes of how a person might do in life. Ie how they do in jobs, education, family life, relationships, crime etc... and even though ethnic Europeans are no where near the top of the IQ curve, Stefan takes heat for that from leftist (which he roundly ignores). The racist card has been played to death by the left and I don't think many take them seriosly anymore even though they are loud and beat their war drums constantly.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

KudzuRunner wrote:

This thread has devolved into crosstalk and ideological simplifications. It's time for somebody to say, "Here's what we know, or think we know, at the present moment."

I hoped for much better.

Parsing the encounter in purely legal terms, btw, is merely one way of seeking understanding. I'm not sure if everybody gets that. A novelist would try to understand motivations, whether or not they have legal weight. Americans sometimes expect the legal system to do more than it was designed to do.

I'm still curious, for example, about why Arbery walked around inside the building. Was he gazing at it with the eyes of a future electrician? Was he casing the joint? Was he looking for water? That question is probably irrelevant to the legal case, but it's interesting. I'm intrigued by the fact that other people, black and white, visited that same house. The white people who visited didn't seem to set off alarms in the minds of local residents.

In regard to your last paragraph, we could ask Arbery about his visit to the site, if the McMichaels hadn't killed him.

KudzuRunner wrote:

This thread has devolved into crosstalk and ideological simplifications. It's time for somebody to say, "Here's what we know, or think we know, at the present moment."

I hoped for much better.

Parsing the encounter in purely legal terms, btw, is merely one way of seeking understanding. I'm not sure if everybody gets that. A novelist would try to understand motivations, whether or not they have legal weight. Americans sometimes expect the legal system to do more than it was designed to do.

I'm still curious, for example, about why Arbery walked around inside the building. Was he gazing at it with the eyes of a future electrician? Was he casing the joint? Was he looking for water? That question is probably irrelevant to the legal case, but it's interesting. I'm intrigued by the fact that other people, black and white, visited that same house. The white people who visited didn't seem to set off alarms in the minds of local residents.