Ran sub 5 for four mile repeats with only 2:30 recovery. This girl is a LOCK for nxn next year, will probably fight it out with Thorvaldson for the title. Shes going to have the best college career out of all of the phenoms- she’s doing all this off lower level high school mileage!
https://tx.milesplit.com/articles/279945-brynn-brown-with-insane-sub-5-min-4-x-mile-repeats
browntown! wrote:
Ran sub 5 for four mile repeats with only 2:30 recovery. This girl is a LOCK for nxn next year, will probably fight it out with Thorvaldson for the title. Shes going to have the best college career out of all of the phenoms- she’s doing all this off lower level high school mileage!
https://tx.milesplit.com/articles/279945-brynn-brown-with-insane-sub-5-min-4-x-mile-repeats
Not smart.
She would be better off running 50-60 miles per week of moderate mileage, instead of low mileage high intensity. No need to do a workout of that volume that hard at this time of year. Good night.
Remember that the last 3 years, most Texas runners did not race to the best of their ability at NXN. The course conditions did not treat people from Texas very well.
For example, many people predicted Schoppe to finish top 3 or top 5, but instead he finished 15th and as not even the top Texas finisher.
And El Paso Eastwood finished last twice in a row, after winning NXR in 2018 and getting an at large in 2019.
So if the course conditions are poor again, Brown might not finish as high as people think.
At best this is 5k pace, with relatively short recovery. At worst, 3k pace. That's tough work!
This is the workout of a 15:30 5k runner, in my opinion. Very impressive. I would also think along the lines of 9:36-9:40 for 3200 based on this.
When you on camera you gotta book it
LetsRunnerPhil, get in here and explain to us how this is "essentially Tinman training".
Please.
Impossible. Short course. 1600 PR is 4:48.
conditions matter wrote:
Remember that the last 3 years, most Texas runners did not race to the best of their ability at NXN. The course conditions did not treat people from Texas very well.
For example, many people predicted Schoppe to finish top 3 or top 5, but instead he finished 15th and as not even the top Texas finisher.
And El Paso Eastwood finished last twice in a row, after winning NXR in 2018 and getting an at large in 2019.
So if the course conditions are poor again, Brown might not finish as high as people think.
Eastwood was overrated. They race in the 5A division. The top teams usually come from the largest classification, 6A. This year, the committee did not listen to posters from Texas that them finishing "Faster" in the 5A race means nothing. It's idiotic that the committee thought merging the state meet was a great way at ranking the teams. They lost Nike Regionals as predicted, and bombed at NXN, as most TX posters knew would happen. I'm pretty certain you can dig it up where some TX posters said they would finish last.
As for Schoppe, yeah, he had a bad race. Brown as well--- but remember? She was coming back from an injury. She was nowhere near her peak fitness level. Sucks that neither of the top TX runners were 100% (particularly Brown), especially when you consider how amazing Brown's cross country season was gearing (the fact she was beating the BEST female TX runners by 50+ seconds is incredible). Schoppe also looked phenomenal, he had never lost a race this season and was beating guys like Anthony Monte (top finisher at NXN) by around 20 seconds in a few races.
The top guys on my team who run 9:20 and 15:30 could barely complete this workout as a group. They could not do it solo. The 9:55 and 16:10 guys would be lucky to hit 5:15 pace. No way she could do this on an accurate course unless she is ready to go 4:30-9:20-15:30.
Not to say this isn't an awesome workout and that she won't run awesome next year. But 2 statements/questions
1. Remember when she ran super fast at the start of XC and then was done by the end of the season and limped(for her) to the finish.
2. If this workout is real, what is the reason for doing it now under the current circumstances? Seems like more burn out waiting to happen.
(Yeah yeah, hate on the hater with 20/20 vision, here it comes)
Fitter than fiddle wrote:
The top guys on my team who run 9:20 and 15:30 could barely complete this workout as a group. They could not do it solo. The 9:55 and 16:10 guys would be lucky to hit 5:15 pace. No way she could do this on an accurate course unless she is ready to go 4:30-9:20-15:30.
I agree with what you said about comparing it to what we know decent boys can do. I also questioned the legitimacy of the course/distance, but hard to argue it when she holds up a Garmin after each rep. Even with Garmin inaccuracies, you're still looking at less than 5s short in most cases. This was simply a killer workout.
Some people keep asking why she would do it right now. Why not? No races on the horizon, so might as well build some miles and knock out some hard workouts in lieu of an actual track season. If she's gunning for a couple of summer meets, this makes sense right now.
If that is an accurate mile, sub-15:30 for a track 5K. That 2:30 rest is the killer. She looks incredibly efficient at that rhythm. Hard to think a HS junior could top Tuohy right now, but I would have to pick Brown after this.
Very well-shot footage, especially with all the foot traffic.
browntown! wrote:
Ran sub 5 for four mile repeats with only 2:30 recovery. This girl is a LOCK for nxn next year, will probably fight it out with Thorvaldson for the title...
They will be running NXN in the fall?
That’s great news.
lol @ her name. these parents deaf or sth? hahahahahhhh
..so HS kids will be running around in cold XC courses in the fall and flying all over the country, while Google employees will be locking themselves in their basement...
Seems unlikely...
I hope so however...
Kids are essentially immune while old fat people are at high risk. Probably not too many old people working for those companies but many are fat.
Go run fast wrote:
Kids are essentially immune while old fat people are at high risk. Probably not too many old people working for those companies but many are fat.
Great.
Can’t wait for XC season then...
Yahoooo...
We beat this thing...
Isn't this the same girl that, as a freshman, ran about 80 miles a week and has had multiple stress fractures?
I too recall something from last year that she was running pretty high mileage.