Cmon dude wrote:
Friday's ride began at 9:06 central time, 10:06 eastern time. I'm not sure in which time zone they started, but certainly today they will enter into the eastern time zone.
Sorry I didn't post this earlier, but I was out running. And by running I mean putting one foot in front of the other at a pace fast enough that you become airborne between each step. I was NOT riding a bicycle. I was NOT riding in an RV.
Moms let you out of the basement? What was the occasion?
I did the work. I reached out. It will not matter what I say it will not be believed So take the time and trouble yourself. I am not going to waste time when any one of you can contact him. Let us know when you do. Better still meet him before the journey ends
A few stats:
Start:
Duration 89:30:07, 988.67 moles.
First three miles:
Duration 89:30:07 to 89:48:45
Miles 988.67 to 991.67
3.00 miles in 18:38 = 9.66 mph, pretty slow pace compared to other days. The first 3 miles got them out of town onto the country roads.
When the mileage was 991.78, which is. 11 miles later, the GPS went into "standing still" mode for approximately 40 seconds. (Is that enough time to throw the bikes onto a bike rack?)
The next split I took was 2 miles later.
Duration 89:48:45 to 89:56:16
Mileage 991.67 to 993.67.
2.00 miles in 7 min 31 sec = 15.96 mph.
If you account for the 40 seconds of still time, the were going 17.52 mph.
The next split was about 3 miles later:
Duration 89:56:16 to 90:07:54
Mileage 993.67 to 996.99
3.32 miles in 11:38 = 17.12 mph
It is very curious that they started out at a pedestrian pace of 9.66 mph, got out of town, had a brief pause, then suddenly start moving at over 17 mph.
This is why I am doubtful that they are riding the whole way.
That's what i thought you would say.
Ozzie9472 wrote:
I did the work. I reached out. It will not matter what I say it will not be believed So take the time and trouble yourself. I am not going to waste time when any one of you can contact him. Let us know when you do. Better still meet him before the journey ends
Lagos ultra runner wrote:
My coach just told me about this thread, and how you people don't believe a non-runner can finish an ultra. I'm here to say that I've done it. When I was an ironman triathalete I only ran 15-20 miles a week. And then when ironman got boring I decided to do an ultra, so I picked a charity 100 miler on the track. I finished in just under 24 hours. And I'm fat. Not like Darren.I'm sure Darren could do half of that day after day.
Now I do major ultras not on a track, and I have a coach (he posts here). He emails me plans and I barely do any of them (LOL, don't tell him), and I still manage to finish them.
You'd think people on a site called Let's Run would know more about running.
If you are doing ironman tris, I would not say that you are a non-runner - running is obviously a large component of that. But I totally agree with you. I see triathletes do ultras all the time, including 100s. I have seen non-runners finish ultras (several of them just hikers, but also people that are just very athletic). But....and this is a big but....you will NOT see non-runners successfully run across the country. You just won't. The day-in and day-out beating your body takes from the asphalt has to be prepared for.
I've been sending information to a few investigative reporters over the past few days. One has responded saying he may be interested. I've answered a lot of his questions, but does anyone have a complete list of all the evidence detailing his cheating? I just want to make this guy has all the information we have to nail him and nothing is left out. Thanks.
Cmon dude wrote:
A few stats:
Start:
Duration 89:30:07, 988.67 moles.
First three miles:
Duration 89:30:07 to 89:48:45
Miles 988.67 to 991.67
3.00 miles in 18:38 = 9.66 mph, pretty slow pace compared to other days. The first 3 miles got them out of town onto the country roads.
When the mileage was 991.78, which is. 11 miles later, the GPS went into "standing still" mode for approximately 40 seconds. (Is that enough time to throw the bikes onto a bike rack?)
The next split I took was 2 miles later.
Duration 89:48:45 to 89:56:16
Mileage 991.67 to 993.67.
2.00 miles in 7 min 31 sec = 15.96 mph.
If you account for the 40 seconds of still time, the were going 17.52 mph.
The next split was about 3 miles later:
Duration 89:56:16 to 90:07:54
Mileage 993.67 to 996.99
3.32 miles in 11:38 = 17.12 mph
It is very curious that they started out at a pedestrian pace of 9.66 mph, got out of town, had a brief pause, then suddenly start moving at over 17 mph.
This is why I am doubtful that they are riding the whole way.
There's my boy. Back in he lab.
Astute analysis. Lmao
Not fake news wrote:
I've been sending information to a few investigative reporters over the past few days. One has responded saying he may be interested. I've answered a lot of his questions, but does anyone have a complete list of all the evidence detailing his cheating? I just want to make this guy has all the information we have to nail him and nothing is left out. Thanks.
Definitely give him the quote from Cmon Dude where he got shop clerks that saw the RV driving without Kavinoky riding.
Also mention all the contradictions Kavinoky made about his "serious injury" where he uploaded photos of him running across the Arizona border when he says he was supposedly injured. And also how the time he said he needed to heal kept changing every time.
And link to the Higi video where Kavinoky says he was fully healed over a month ago and would be running again, way ahead of what he told us on video.
Also, the very suspicious 2011 San Diego Marathon result where Kavinoky finished an hour faster than his other marathons:
http://archive.is/KnCWhIll see if i can muster a summary later on today. Reading through the thread is honestly the best bet. It gets a little murky with Darrens friends/family/crew likely posting on here a lot recently and both defending but also trying to act like idiots to try and diminish credibility of the whole.
Not fake news wrote:
I've been sending information to a few investigative reporters over the past few days. One has responded saying he may be interested. I've answered a lot of his questions, but does anyone have a complete list of all the evidence detailing his cheating? I just want to make this guy has all the information we have to nail him and nothing is left out. Thanks.
I took a mileage reading exactly one hour after my previous one and they went 17.1 miles
Duration 90:07:54 to 91:07:54
Mileage 996.99 to 1014.1
17.1 miles per hour
It should be noted that when I took the mileage it was during another 40 +/- second pause. I wonder if they were getting back on their bikes and will now go at a slower pace.
Since they surpassed the 1000 mile mark the mileage readings no longer go to the 1/100th of a mile, but to the nearest 1/10th. With one less significant digit to work with, mph readings also lose a significant digit and individual mile readings will be less accurate.
Ozzie9472 wrote:
You raise some good points and this is interesting.
Let me expand on your scenario. You state you are going to swim the channel.
You start, you get stung, bitten or what ever, but decide to continue, not swimming but in a canoe.
You have a tracker so everyone can see where you are and anyone can join you but you made it clear you are not swimming now but canoeing. Possible?
Would you continue across the channel knowing that at any time if you got into a chase boat you could be called out?
As for the claims he was not injured if any of you took the time and trouble to reach out to his PR guy you would get the facts. He in fact was injured sorry to burst that bubble.
He wasn't injured. His PR guy!!!! Like we are going to trust anyone connected to this scam, who will be in on it.
He faked an injury as he knew WE were onto him. There was no proof he was injured. No x-rays no medical report.
It was a fake injury as he knew he could no longer carry out the planned lie of a faked run across America,
If he was injured, he soon said he was okay again, so why didn't he start running??
He didn't have a tracker for ages.
A tracker means nothing anyway, unless backed up by a running watch with cadence and heart rate, that proves a real person is wearing it.
Any other trip like this with sponsors and free gear has the runner wearing a GPS watch and uploading the data each night. He has never done this.
The tracker doesn't say where he will be, and he kept swerving off the obvious route so he couldn't be found. Where is the diary of times and dates where he will be?
I'm not in America, so I can't personally come and find him.
He's made sure people couldn't run with him. If you contacted him asking where he would be, he blocked you.
If and when he gets caught he will likely just make a lame excuse like they were driving to the shops.
So he has risked cheating and doing large amounts in the RV.
The claimed mileage and pace doesn't add up.
You don't seem unintelligent, therefore the only real possibility is that you are connected to this trip.
Why else would you be this interested?
Obviously you'll just deny it. But it's clear you are involved.
No-one on here outing him had anything against him personally.
Had he been doing this legit, like MANY others, and doing it legit for a charity, people would have supported him.
No-one is simply being mean as they don't like him. It's only because this is such an obvious scam.
Oh yes, we can't forget all the lack of sweat in the dessert near Phoenix.
That internet site shows Darren has run over 1000 miles! So yes he is a runner duh sorry not sorry
You make my point.
Anyone who is involved must be a scammer. No basis just supposition. I hope a reporter does get involved. Then he can report on what he/she finds
CNN already reported this. Dr. Phil to. Its real.
Leave Darren Alone! wrote:
That internet site shows Darren has run over 1000 miles! So yes he is a runner duh sorry not sorry
Ah, the internet says...............Oh.must be true then.
I asked you to show the results from a multi stage ultra marathon where he has run 50 miles a day every day for thousands of miles, as you claimed he had already done the same as a run across America.
Where is the evidence?
Where is the evidence he ran 1,000 miles. He can run 1,000 miles non stop? Or over 20 years?
If it's not in a race then he needs to provide proof, like data off a running watch, something he has not done at all on this trip.
I can go and write on the internet that i just ran 5,000 miles. Doesn't mean it's true just because I said it.
He wasn't injured. His PR guy!!!! Like we are going to trust anyone connected to this scam, who will be in on it.
He faked an injury as he knew WE were onto him. There was no proof he was injured. No x-rays no medical report.
It was a fake injury as he knew he could no longer carry out the planned lie of a faked run across America,
If he was injured, he soon said he was okay again, so why didn't he start running??
He didn't have a tracker for ages.
A tracker means nothing anyway, unless backed up by a running watch with cadence and heart rate, that proves a real person is wearing it.
Any other trip like this with sponsors and free gear has the runner wearing a GPS watch and uploading the data each night. He has never done this.
The tracker doesn't say where he will be, and he kept swerving off the obvious route so he couldn't be found. Where is the diary of times and dates where he will be?
I'm not in America, so I can't personally come and find him.
He's made sure people couldn't run with him. If you contacted him asking where he would be, he blocked you.
If and when he gets caught he will likely just make a lame excuse like they were driving to the shops.
So he has risked cheating and doing large amounts in the RV.
The claimed mileage and pace doesn't add up.
You don't seem unintelligent, therefore the only real possibility is that you are connected to this trip.
Why else would you be this interested?
Obviously you'll just deny it. But it's clear you are involved.
No-one on here outing him had anything against him personally.
Had he been doing this legit, like MANY others, and doing it legit for a charity, people would have supported him.
No-one is simply being mean as they don't like him. It's only because this is such an obvious scam.
Nice summary what happened so far.
Leave Darren Alone! wrote:
CNN already reported this. Dr. Phil to. Its real.
What is really nice right now is, to know that Darren HAS TO cycle all the way to New York. There is no easy way out. If he does his career as a TV star is over. Other hosts have been fired for less. When the gossip papers at the supermarket pick up this story Darren is toast. And he knows it.
Judger of debates wrote:
I'm glad that finally--on page 80--some logic has finally crept into this thread. So far it's been dominated by people wanting to take this all way too literally, like it's a world record attempt or the Olympics or something.
I haven't chimed in until now, and I just want say that I agree with those saying he's doing the equivalent of running.
Remember that Darren is from SoCal, and things are pretty chill there. Running, walking, biking, taking breaks to fly home, whatever. It's all good. Dude's on a mission, and we should respect that. Why do people want to harsh on his honeymoon journey?
I think Darren is just as inspirational as that Scott Yorbic guy who hiked the appalachian trail. I mean, didn't he sleep in an RV every night too?
Now that the east coast is waking up we'll probably see a lot of hate again, but whatevs. My mind has been settled.
I'm glad you mentioned the amazing runner Scott Yorbic! He's my favorite runner after Dean Molasses, Karl Seltzer, and Anton Cupcaker.
People here have already shown runs Darren ran on internet sites. So he is a runner. The end. He is not running across USA because he got hurt. It happens especially when you push your body as hard as he does. Look at the youtube. He ran from Dr. Phil to Santa Monica also. So now he is biking. Why do 2 or 3 pretend runners care? Do something good for people like Darren!