Roger Stone arrested

jamin wrote:

Man Overboard wrote:

That Roger Stone is being indicted for process crimes shows that the end is near...for Mueller. He's got nothin'.

Mueller himself notes that the Trump campaign was so clueless about what Wikileaks was up to that they were trying to glean info from the likes of Roger Stone. Pretty much torpedoes the narrative that anyone in the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia, or even that they had any clue what the Russians had provided to Wikileaks.

No indictments of Russians who had anything to do with Trump.

No indictments of Americans who had anything to do with Putin/GRU/Wikileaks.

No conspiracy. No collusion. Mueller has known this for months now. CNN/MSNBC do their best to obscure it daily.

Right on the money.

I think "they" are going to keep changing goalposts.

Originally, the Russian Collusion idea was that the Trump campaign instructed, or gave the green light, through the some back-channel communication, to the Russian government, to hack the DNC email servers. At this point that idea is seeming as unlikely as ever. You would think that after 2+ years of investigation, we would have been some indictment related to it already, or some rumor leaked of it, or someone at least claiming to know about such communication between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. Nope. Nothing.

So now the idea is that the Trump campaign had some indirect link to someone who knew something more about the Wikileaks emails than the public knew (Nevermind the fact that this wouldn't be a crime if it turned out to be true). By indirect I mean Trump kinda knows Roger Stone, who might've talked to some radio host named Randy Credico, who supposedly has some contact with Julian Assange, who supposedly got DNC emails from the Russian government. No evidence to support this idea, either.

About Roger Stone. If you know anything about him, you know that he's completely full of it. He's always on InfoWars claiming that some "secret source" gave him some "inside information" about something about to happen, that never happens.

People say this is like Nixon era wrote:

People say this is like Nixon era. Both CNN and NBC/MSNBC are bringing out those still alive from 1972-1974, Nixon's final days. Nixon grew up poor. Nixon had a loving mother. Nixon was an attorney. Once it starting falling apart, Nixon wanted to still be an honorable attorney. Nixon did not destroy the tapes. Trump is nothing like Nixon. Trump's mother flew back to Scotland to be a high society debutante. Trump's parents' sent Trump off to boarding schools. In a narrow sense, Trump reminds me of JFK. JFK's father was a big gangster. Fred Trump was a smaller gangster. Gangsters put JFK in office. JFK, without gravitas decided he wanted to challenge the entire system. Trump has no gravitas and is challenging US Justice/FBI. JFK went to war against CIA. After JFK went to war against CIA, a lonely ex-Marine down on his luck .... blah, blah blah. In Navy terms, Stone's arrest with 29 FBI agents on the ground, more in helicopters and watercraft was a shot across Trump's bow. I am certain that was not FBI's last message.

Hoaxin it up wrote:

People say this is like Nixon era wrote:

People say this is like Nixon era. Both CNN and NBC/MSNBC are bringing out those still alive from 1972-1974, Nixon's final days. Nixon grew up poor. Nixon had a loving mother. Nixon was an attorney. Once it starting falling apart, Nixon wanted to still be an honorable attorney. Nixon did not destroy the tapes. Trump is nothing like Nixon. Trump's mother flew back to Scotland to be a high society debutante. Trump's parents' sent Trump off to boarding schools. In a narrow sense, Trump reminds me of JFK. JFK's father was a big gangster. Fred Trump was a smaller gangster. Gangsters put JFK in office. JFK, without gravitas decided he wanted to challenge the entire system. Trump has no gravitas and is challenging US Justice/FBI. JFK went to war against CIA. After JFK went to war against CIA, a lonely ex-Marine down on his luck .... blah, blah blah. In Navy terms, Stone's arrest with 29 FBI agents on the ground, more in helicopters and watercraft was a shot across Trump's bow. I am certain that was not FBI's last message.

Nixon's campaign got caught breaking into the opposing campaign's offices and stealing documents. These are actual black and white crimes, and there was evidence that was easy to find in an era of low technological communication available.

Trump's campaign has yet to be indicted for anything relating to "Russian collusion", and the implied attempts at getting info from Wikileaks by Stone in the indictment were not illegal. This is in an era of extremely easy to attain evidence of communication via text/email/call.

Meanwhile, it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the FBI, CIA, DNC, Perkins Coie, and Fusion GPS were all working together against the Trump campaign to help Clinton win. Part of their work was actually colluding with foreign agents. They're trying to pull the biggest switcheroo in history. And you on the Left are buying it because you were so devastated in November 2016.