I hope you are pretending to be as dense are you are coming across. I have no interest in proving that those statements weren't made, because the statements are irrelevant if they aren't in the written agreement. And if they aren't in the written agreement, then there is no NATO agreement limiting expansion.
Your second point is absurd. Countries do not support every policy or belief of their allies or segments of the population of their allies. And a decision by an American to support resisting the invasion of another country by Russia is not a decision to support all of the policies of that target country. Similarly, I'll assume that your decision to live in Japan doesn't constitute your endorsement of Japanese troops using Chinese civilians for bayonet practice or forcing Korean women into sex slavery. But in doing so I'm being more generous than you are.
Just ugly stuff. Please, urge your family not to procreate, because you are making more permanent Nazis with your "temporary" Nazi support. You honestly think Nazi signage on Ukraine streets for regular people to be coopted into Nazi ideology is ok. To then target minorities.
You like zig zagging from the points I made to regarding the absence of a NATO agreement limiting expansion to change the subject. Of course, since the Wagner group Putin allows to wage the war for him has engaged in actual atrocities in many places over the years (and in Ukraine) and is led by Nazis, that isn't much of a safe space for you. And have you verified that all the civilians the Russians have executed and raped were Nazis? Because if you haven't, you don't have any moral grounds to question my support of Ukraine independence. But then, you are the guy helping gambling corporations take money from average people with gambling addictions, yet preach to others.
No there's just a lot of really stupid people who think the only 2 options are "pro-Russia" or "pro-Ukraine".
What's worse, the "pro-Ukraine" crowd thinks the complete destruction of Ukraine and hundreds of thousands of deaths is preferable to Ukraine reverting back to the status quo of 2014.
Ukraine has never been and never will be a democracy. It's too corrupt.
This is a great opportunity to buy Lockheed Martin and Raytheon stock. Some of you need to think more positively about US interventionism. I can add to my retirement and help bleed Russia dry in a twenty year war!
And that's the US's only interest in Ukraine.
Driving Russia into China's arms is idiotic strategically.
Ukraine won't last 5 years let alone 20.
Starting another proxy war we're going to lose was a great idea.
Certainly you can find an entire Nazi soccer game in Russia, like this one in Ukraine. Just normal Ukraine civilians and their families all being Nazi together.
Just another day of seemingly innocuous street signs in civilian life coopting Ukraine society into Nazi ideology. Hey kids.... we want to tell you some stories about this picture!
"A picture is worth a thousand words! NAZI IN UKRAINE? Here at the top is a poster plastered in 2023 in the streets of Ukraine: "The Galicia Division protection of Ukraine since 1943" And below the promotion in 1943c of the same Galicia unit, then Ukrainian SS division..."
Une photos vaut milles mots ! NAZI EN UKRAINE ? Voici en haut une affiche placardée en 2023 dans les rues ukrainiennes : "La Division Galicia protection de l'Ukraine depuis 1943"Et en dessous la promotion en 1943cde la même unité Galicia,alors division SS ukrainienne... pic.twitter.com/lJx1e57P12
— Gilles Duchaussoy (@GilleDuchaussoy) March 1, 2023
If there are that many Nazis in Ukraine, and more than half of all the Nazis in world are in Russia, imagine how many Nazis there must be in Russia!
p.s. In addition, it looks like Russia (and Putin) and all-in on Stalin!
Opinion polls conducted by the Levada Center, an independent polling organization based in Moscow, have shown that approximately 70 percent of Russians approve of Stalin and his policies.
Under Stalin’s rule, approximately 1.7 million Soviet citizens were evicted from their homes and taken to forced labor camps. About 690,000 were executed.
If there are that many Nazis in Ukraine, and more than half of all the Nazis in world are in Russia, imagine how many Nazis there must be in Russia!
p.s. In addition, it looks like Russia (and Putin) and all-in on Stalin!
Opinion polls conducted by the Levada Center, an independent polling organization based in Moscow, have shown that approximately 70 percent of Russians approve of Stalin and his policies.
But no soccer stadiums full of Nazi's doing seig heils together, all civilians with kids and families in attendance?
No street signs promoting Nazi culture to civilians?
Not hundreds of monuments of Nazis / Nazi collaborators for regular people to see?
No national holidays for Nazis?
No Nazi battalions in their military ranks like Ukraine's Azov, Aidar Battalion, C14, and National Front, which Zelensky folded into his govt?
Take a seat doofus.
Ukraine Designates National Holiday to Commemorate Nazi Collaborator Separately, the state banned 'Book of Thieves' which criticizes the anti-Semitic actions of a different national leader for 'inciting ethnic, racial and religious hatred'
Nazi collaborator greeting becomes official Ukraine army salute 'Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Heroes! These words and this greeting will become Armed Forces of Ukraine official military greeting.'
I've been away a bit (as I should have stayed), but I'm curious, did adult clarify which of the following is true:
a) Lied about being in the Army for 11 years and/or has ever been around an M1? Or,
b) WAS in the Army for some period of time around M1s, and STILL got owned by a likely non-expert (non-moran) poster about tanks?
A, of course, is more likely. B, far more amusing (and also quite likely).
Oh look our stolen valor guy is back...
How did I get owned exactly?
Countries do not have thousands of extra tank crews laying around even for their own tanks.
The notion that Ukraine has highly trained tank crews who are only waiting for tanks is idiotic. Especially a country like Ukraine which had hardly any military to speak of prior to 2014.
The reason we're in this situation is you said that Ukraine was capturing Russian tanks it didn't know how to use, and then you later said you were referring to Russian tanks all along. Compounding a dumb statement instead of conceding the point just makes you look dumber. Sorry, I don't make the rules, it's just how these things work.
And then your response was to say, Oh yeah, the U.S. has the best tankers in the world! Which I agree with, and no one has ever said otherwise. But as a response, it's completely illogical and looks like you're changing the subject.
It doesn't have to be like this. You can just say, "On second thought, there's a good chance that Ukraine is able to put those T-72s to good use, and some video evidence that it's already happening." It would be better for everyone if you did.
I've been away a bit (as I should have stayed), but I'm curious, did adult clarify which of the following is true:
a) Lied about being in the Army for 11 years and/or has ever been around an M1? Or,
b) WAS in the Army for some period of time around M1s, and STILL got owned by a likely non-expert (non-moran) poster about tanks?
A, of course, is more likely. B, far more amusing (and also quite likely).
Oh look our stolen valor guy is back...
How did I get owned exactly?
Countries do not have thousands of extra tank crews laying around even for their own tanks.
The notion that Ukraine has highly trained tank crews who are only waiting for tanks is idiotic. Especially a country like Ukraine which had hardly any military to speak of prior to 2014.
But I wanted to come back to the point about your military service, because that makes two of us now who have mocked you about it in ways that, honestly, I feel kind of bad about. You could have responded by saying, "It's b) all the way, bucko, I deployed twice in Desert Storm!!!" or whatever. Instead we get this weird non-denial-denial where you change the subject instead of answering a simple question. It's something you could even lie easily about or claim to desire privacy and never get caught. But instead of committing to a simple fact of biography, you can't even muster up a simple, "How DARE you question my military service!!!" Instead, you want to change the subject back to Ukrainian tank training. It's just one more super weird thing about your comments.
The reason we're in this situation is you said that Ukraine was capturing Russian tanks it didn't know how to use, and then you later said you were referring to Western tanks all along.
Countries do not have thousands of extra tank crews laying around even for their own tanks.
The notion that Ukraine has highly trained tank crews who are only waiting for tanks is idiotic. Especially a country like Ukraine which had hardly any military to speak of prior to 2014.
The reason we're in this situation is you said that Ukraine was capturing Russian tanks it didn't know how to use, and then you later said you were referring to Russian tanks all along. Compounding a dumb statement instead of conceding the point just makes you look dumber. Sorry, I don't make the rules, it's just how these things work.
And then your response was to say, Oh yeah, the U.S. has the best tankers in the world! Which I agree with, and no one has ever said otherwise. But as a response, it's completely illogical and looks like you're changing the subject.
It doesn't have to be like this. You can just say, "On second thought, there's a good chance that Ukraine is able to put those T-72s to good use, and some video evidence that it's already happening." It would be better for everyone if you did.
I didn't say "Ukraine" didn't know how to use the tanks I said they don't have hundreds of spare crews laying around with more than 6 months of training.
You constantly lie about my positions and distort what I've actually said.
The Ukrainian army was an absolute joke prior to 2014. It was small. It was ineffectual and very badly trained.
The idea that they have the pool of trained manpower western nations have is absurd.
Countries do not have thousands of extra tank crews laying around even for their own tanks.
The notion that Ukraine has highly trained tank crews who are only waiting for tanks is idiotic. Especially a country like Ukraine which had hardly any military to speak of prior to 2014.
But I wanted to come back to the point about your military service, because that makes two of us now who have mocked you about it in ways that, honestly, I feel kind of bad about. You could have responded by saying, "It's b) all the way, bucko, I deployed twice in Desert Storm!!!" or whatever. Instead we get this weird non-denial-denial where you change the subject instead of answering a simple question. It's something you could even lie easily about or claim to desire privacy and never get caught. But instead of committing to a simple fact of biography, you can't even muster up a simple, "How DARE you question my military service!!!" Instead, you want to change the subject back to Ukrainian tank training. It's just one more super weird thing about your comments.
I've been mocked repeatedly about my service on this site because people disagree with my opinion on something or other. Virtually none of my opinions are out of the mainstream and the overwhelming majority of veterans are will agree with me than my detractors on most issues.
I don't care if people like you or the stolen valor nonequal types question my service. I never bring it up unless it's relevant to the discussion and even then only when someone like nonequals tells me I'm wrong because he's a "combat veteran".
A long time ago on a different thread we were discussing ground warfare in Iraq which I personally participated in and nonequals rolled in and tried to tell me I didn't know know what I was talking about. So I asked for his bona fides on the subject and he pretended he was there. When pressed he admitted he was only in the navy. He's not a pilot. He's not a corpsman. He's a fraud who lies on internet forums to try to win points. I called it him out on his disgusting behavior and deep down he knows it was disgusting but rather than apologize he goes into a teary eyed rage every time he sees me.
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The reason we're in this situation is you said that Ukraine was capturing Russian tanks it didn't know how to use, and then you later said you were referring to Western tanks all along.
Amid intensifying fight in Bakhmut, Putin's secret army has warned Ukrainian President Zelensky. The Wagner group chief has threatened Ukraine to withdraw it...
Interesting blog post speculating that Putin might turn over leadership to someone "less toxic" to the west. No idea how credible this might be, but interesting that he might be looking for an off-ramp.
In other news, year over year new car sales in Russia down 62% for February.
Also Russians are fielding T-62 tanks which were initially introduced in 1961, and a further indication of shortages of armament and the cost of fighting a "war of attrition".
Interesting blog post speculating that Putin might turn over leadership to someone "less toxic" to the west. No idea how credible this might be, but interesting that he might be looking for an off-ramp.
In other news, year over year new car sales in Russia down 62% for February.
Also Russians are fielding T-62 tanks which were initially introduced in 1961, and a further indication of shortages of armament and the cost of fighting a "war of attrition".
More interestingly and verifiable is that one of Putin's allies is in the hospital, perhaps poisoned, and has left RU for treatment. Maybe he doesn't trust RU hospitals with windows. Love to see palace intrigue. Coups happen when everyone starts to be frightened and they think 'holy cow I might be next I better go kill someone right away.' then the ball gets rolling and it's a shootout at the Red Square Corral.
I'd expect Wagner to do a test soon...do something very identifiably dangerous to Putin and see how Putin reacts. If Putin looks away or does something identifiably weak, that will be a giant opening for a challenge to Putin's rule. On the other hand, if Putin reacts with strength then well Putin will cement his rule.
Everyone knows the war was a giant mistake. Question is whether people will think it has relieved Putin of the right to the Czar's crown.
Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu visited the war-battered city of Mariupol in southern Ukraine, one year after his forces besieged the city, levelling ...
I don't care if people like you or the stolen valor nonequal types question my service. I never bring it up unless it's relevant to the discussion and even then only when someone like nonequals tells me I'm wrong .................
...................A long time ago on a different thread we were discussing ground warfare in Iraq which I personally participated in and nonequals rolled in and tried to tell me I didn't know know what I was talking about.
The Ukrainian army was an absolute joke prior to 2014. It was small. It was ineffectual and very badly trained.
The idea that they have the pool of trained manpower western nations have is absurd.
Yet Russia is still struggling. How does the point you are trying to make actually support your assertion that Russia is winning?
Russia occupies a huge chunk of Ukraine and Ukraine can't dislodge them. How does that support your assertion that Ukraine is winning?
Both armies are focused on Bakhmut. Russia is gaining ground in Bakhmut and Ukraine is preparing to abandon the city. How does that support your assertion that Ukraine is winning?
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