Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

SmartRunnr wrote:

Picture me Trollin wrote:

Perhaps since Bart Yasso was never a very fast runner himself, he condones cheating? I don't get it

This trolling here gets ridiculous. Naturally Bart won't disqualify an innocent runner! Remember that the committee fully exonerated Mike, after viewing all the evidence including witnesses and photos - see their comprehensive investigation.

Why is it then that the only ones I know who follow this guy's recommendations are 4hr marathon types w/ an IQ under 100?

titaniumbolt wrote:

therealSmokingGunner wrote:

Looks like Rossi locked his twitter, but before doing so, there was some talk about him getting back into running shape.

He also got famous in Men's Health... great Google hit for his reputation.

I saw that Men's Health article as well while I was googling Rossi to see if there were any recent results available. Agreed - that article is not good for his online reputation.

I've seen the supposed Men's Health article mentioned several times here but I cannot find it. Are you actually referring to Men's Journal? If not, please post a link to the Men's Health article.

elephino wrote:

Nobody believe that any more now than they did the last 457 times you posted it.

Try to count that again. 4 or 5 or 7 times does not equal 457 times.

elephino wrote:

SmartRunnr is a liar. There were no new photos

What's your stake in this? Above you "just" exaggerated by a factor of 100, but here you are obviously lying, because you actively participated in the discussion of the photos here a couple of pages back. Why?

Yes I know, Derek or Michael or whoever it was tried to belittle the significance of some of these photos. But that didn't matter to the unbiased committee in its search for the truth. What was it again? Oh yeah, one allegedly didn't count, because it would imply a positive split, which in itself would be impossible (sic!); another didn't count, because Mike was in the shade, so hypothetically it might have somebody different with his clothes and height and gait, and the rest, well who really cares what lame excuses that troll came up with.

As for the committee, "There was NO meaningful investigation", seriously? You have all read so much about its thorough, lengthy investigation under inclusion of experts from the local running scene as well as USATF. For example in phillymag:

" "We reviewed every piece of data available to us and searched extensively for additional data like police surveillance video and media coverage," she says, adding that United States Track & Field — the national governing body for the sport — acted in an advisory capacity for the inquiry."

Sound thorough to me.

And in conclusion:

" In this process, we uncovered no evidence of wrongdoing on Mr. Rossi's part … The investigation is concluded. "

Again, "no evidence" is a very clear, strong statement, e.g. in contrast to "not enough evidence" or " only circumstantial evidence" etc. Some of you here act as if "no evidence" would equal "strong evidence", others even pretend that there was no investigation. Grow up and get a life. Or carry on with this wild goose chase/conspiracy theory, if you prefer.

SmartRunnr wrote:

Picture me Trollin wrote:

Perhaps since Bart Yasso was never a very fast runner himself, he condones cheating? I don't get it

This trolling here gets ridiculous. Naturally Bart won't disqualify an innocent runner! Remember that the committee fully exonerated Mike, after viewing all the evidence including witnesses and photos - see their comprehensive investigation.

So stop trying to damage Bart's reputation.

@finisher medal:

Wow, gay "jokes", so original and mature. I thought you wanted to keep Mike's family out of this thread?

I noticed you put the quotation marks around "jokes". Sorry if I was joking.

Can you tell us more about how you and Mike softly stroke each other?

SmartRunnr wrote:

elephino wrote:

Nobody believe that any more now than they did the last 457 times you posted it.

Try to count that again. 4 or 5 or 7 times does not equal 457 times.

elephino wrote:

SmartRunnr is a liar. There were no new photos

What's your stake in this? Above you "just" exaggerated by a factor of 100, but here you are obviously lying, because you actively participated in the discussion of the photos here a couple of pages back.

Yes. I did exaggerate. I did not actually count that you posted it 457 times. You got me there.

I did not participate in a discussion of new photos of Rossi because there were no new photos of Rossi. None. There were also no new witnesses that you said there were. Were you part of the investigation? Now you're saying that that "experts from the local running scene" were involved. This is the first I've heard that. Maybe they said that and I missed it, but it's news to me.

And aren't you the same person who claimed that Rossi, the guy who publicly calls people "bitch", "ho", and tells people to "shut the f* up" (I'm only including his twitter, not the alleged slurs against Ken's kid and girlfriend) and has never publicly mentioned God or Christianity cannot have cheated because he's a good christian?

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I've seen the supposed Men's Health article mentioned several times here but I cannot find it. Are you actually referring to Men's Journal? If not, please post a link to the Men's Health article.

http://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/exercise/the-100-000-marathon-training-plan-20150724

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That's the one.

elephino wrote:

I did not participate in a discussion of new photos of Rossi because there were no new photos of Rossi. None. There were also no new witnesses that you said there were. Were you part of the investigation? Now you're saying that that "experts from the local running scene" were involved. This is the first I've heard that. Maybe they said that and I missed it, but it's news to me.

a) Photos: You are lying again. Sigh. There were shown on twitter, and discussed here. Beginning at page 659 in this thread, with quite ridiculous excuses/accusations by GregTr a la shade/positive split/photoshop and what not.

b) Local runners: That was announced right from the start, and discussed here as well. And no, I am not jumping again at your very command: you can look this up all by yourself, and then apologize.

So what's your story here? Is he your neighbor, and once didn't greet you or what?

Dude, just no... Sad and embarrassing... 0/10 you get new thing for effort

There are no police videos. Where would the police cameras be for crying or aloud!

The press release that the race released basically called him a cheater without calling him a cheater. And if they really believed his story they wouldn't have had timing mats added, being they are a extra cost and all for a small charity race.

All I remember about SmartRunnr is him digging up an old thread when the mods had deleted all the Rossi threads and this one had moved off the boards. Nobody had even been talking about Mike Rossi at that point for a good week or two.

He's not running Chicago. There's a different Michael Rossi, but different age group and from Illinois.

smartrunnr- 0/10

First of all, thank you for keeping this thread going. It's fun.

a) Those were not new photos. There were photos of Mike at the start and finish, which was never disputed. Then some photos from the middle of the race that were not Mike. Nobody seriously believed they were Mike. They were not mentioned by the LVM people.

b) Who announced it? In their statements about what they actually did, LVM never mentioned talking to local runners, much less the "experts" you claimed.

You keep claiming to have inside information on the investigation that was not publicly announced. Witnesses, photos, interviews with "experts from the local running scene" (whatever that means). "Exoneration" when their official statement implies he was guilty. Are you claiming you were part of the investigation?

I have never met Mike Rossi. I don't hate him or care about him. I just find the story fascinating. He's such an unrepentant douchebag that it's hard to look away when he continues to make an ass of himself.

And I think LVM made the right decision in not DQing him. It would have been pointless. They basically said "he cheated but we don't have a smoking gun so we're moving on".

smartrunnr,

for the record, GregTr blew the sh!t out of every single one of those pics on 659 (thanks for providing me the page to reference it by the way!). GregTr analyzed those pics to the hilt and proved none of them could possibly help Rossi's case. The bit about positive split was a small detail in response to someone questioning him, and icing on the cake further shredding any credibility they might have. It was not his major argument as you imply.

Quit trying to stir the sh!t; you're just bringing more venom toward yourself and MR. Is that your goal here?

SmartRunnr --

Any inside info on when Mike will collect the 10 grand for the sub-20 5K? Will he just barely break 20, to toy with the Brojos, or completely obliterate it to send a message?

Thanks buddy. You're the only one keeping things at least slightly interesting.

SmartRunnr wrote:

The plan is to go for sub-3 in NYC, unless they have unfavorable weather again. Then he'd just enjoy the atmosphere, and jog a 3:30 - 3:40.

Not sure whether he'll be ready though. For example, this week he ran an over/under 10, i.e. 6:40 alternating with 7:00 miles, and had trouble with the 6:40 miles towards the end.

NYC has a half marathon option?

SmartRunnr wrote:

@elephino:

Well, if you check again, there were three different photos discussed here (saved from Mike's twitter). Of course next you'll claim that something is wrong with each and everyone of those...

Don't think I said anything about how many photos there were or if there was something "wrong" with any of them. I only said that there were no photos of Mike Rossi other than at the start and finish, which is true.

If you have photos of Rossi not at the start or finish, please post the links and tell us where on the course they are from.

And proven it was not The Cheat (except in absentia) by virtue of it being another runner.

bored troLLer wrote:

smartrunnr,

for the record, GregTr blew the sh!t out of every single one of those pics on 659 (thanks for providing me the page to reference it by the way!). GregTr analyzed those pics to the hilt and proved none of them could possibly help Rossi's case. The bit about positive split was a small detail in response to someone questioning him, and icing on the cake further shredding any credibility they might have. It was not his major argument as you imply.

Quit trying to stir the sh!t; you're just bringing more venom toward yourself and MR. Is that your goal here?

6:40mi is 2:55 marathon pace, if he couldn't hold that for 5 or 10 miles he isn't coming near sub 3. He should be able to do that for a half marathon solid if he want s a sub3. Now if this has been a TWENTY mile run I might be a little bit less harsh, but for TEN miles.... LOL!

Mike if you are reading....Thinking that you are in sub 3 shape is almost as dumb as thinking one is going to be BQ again when running 3:40 in a marathon when you need a 3:25.

Loofa Dog wrote:

6:40mi is 2:55 marathon pace, if he couldn't hold that for 5 or 10 miles he isn't coming near sub 3.

Well, 2:59 => 6:50 pace. Hence the over/under, an old classic: you alternate 1 mile in 6:40 with 1 mile in 7:00 for a total of 10 miles. This is a hard workout about 9 - 10 weeks before the goal marathon.

Sounds ridiculous to you of course, for that is your recovery pace, but not everyone is a sub-15 letsrunner.

elephino wrote:

Don't think I said anything about how many photos there were or if there was something "wrong" with any of them. I only said that there were no photos of Mike Rossi other than at the start and finish, which is true.

If you have photos of Rossi not at the start or finish, please post the links and tell us where on the course they are from.

Last try: several such photos were discussed here on page 659. Feel free to claim that those weren't Rossi's. In that case, let's agree to disagree.