Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

theRealSmokingGunner wrote:

It's getting creepier by the day folks.

It seems clear to me that LMR is intent on getting this thread removed, the idea that he is a Rossi stooge doesn't at this time seem as far from reality as his crazy accomplice theory.

On a lighter note .... Perhaps Mike is the human equivalent of Seabiscuit! And that gait, while awkward, is effective.

From the book by Laura Hillenbrand:

Asked to run, he would drop low over the track and fall into a comical version of what horseman call an eggbeater gait, making a spastic sideways flailing motion with his left foreleg as he swung it forward, as if he were swatting at flies. ... One observer compared his action to a duck waddle.

I see that the mods deleted Ken's creepy post about studying pictures of family vacation photos.

Great. Now he will continue to post more creepy stuff.

The only question I want to know the answer to more than "When will Mike be DQ'ed?" is "When will they ban Ken?"

Thank you for getting this back on topic.

Whyamihere wrote:

On a lighter note .... Perhaps Mike is the human equivalent of Seabiscuit! And that gait, while awkward, is effective.

From the book by Laura Hillenbrand:

Asked to run, he would drop low over the track and fall into a comical version of what horseman call an eggbeater gait, making a spastic sideways flailing motion with his left foreleg as he swung it forward, as if he were swatting at flies. ... One observer compared his action to a duck waddle.

Eggbeater gait. Love it.

I reported Kenny's post. He doesn't see it, but he's crossed the line again. Yes, MR crossed the line earlier in this thread and on other social media sites. But, we can only manage things going forward. Kenny has no place on the thread.

This thread is toxic and is bringing out the worst in people. Rossi cheated and he's a douchebag but there are lots more worse people in the world far more deserving of venting anger towards. Stop the obsession with him, it's not productive.

Go ahead and confess and then we'll go ahead and move on.

Chef Ramzi wrote:

This thread is toxic and is bringing out the worst in people. Rossi cheated and he's a douchebag but there are lots more worse people in the world far more deserving of venting anger towards. Stop the obsession with him, it's not productive.

I actually think you have a good point. In some ways, I think Mike has already been humiliated beyond what the seriousness of his offense deserves (admittedly brought on by his own subsequent actions).

Whether he acts sufficiently (for me) humiliated really should not concern me. I am going to make another attempt to move on.

If Rossi wears the baa Boston marathon 2015 baseball cap to a golf event, doesn't that hurt charity donations because it will remind people of his cheating?

Do you think Grimes 4 dimes @ AOL will go after Ken after the C&D letter?

Guy Who Gives +1 wrote:

Michelangelo wrote:

Worth repeating...

+1

Stupid ipad. Replied and quoted the wrong post. Meant to +1 Michaelangelo's post, not the Mike Ruiz one. Glad to see Ken's post that prompted this is now gone. Leave the family out of it means, unsuprisingly, leave the family out of it. Mike put himself in the public eye. His family did not.

Whyamihere wrote:

On a lighter note .... Perhaps Mike is the human equivalent of Seabiscuit! And that gait, while awkward, is effective.

From the book by Laura Hillenbrand:

Asked to run, he would drop low over the track and fall into a comical version of what horseman call an eggbeater gait, making a spastic sideways flailing motion with his left foreleg as he swung it forward, as if he were swatting at flies. ... One observer compared his action to a duck waddle.

+1. Rossi's gait has nothing to do with whether or not he cheated.

An even better example than Seabiscuit is AlSal. No matter what else you might think of him, Salazar was unquestionably a great marathoner. But his gait was pretty awful. I believe it was Hal Higdon who described it as "a guy running with a big sack of potatoes."

Fat hurts wrote:

Whyamihere wrote:

On a lighter note .... Perhaps Mike is the human equivalent of Seabiscuit! And that gait, while awkward, is effective.

From the book by Laura Hillenbrand:

Asked to run, he would drop low over the track and fall into a comical version of what horseman call an eggbeater gait, making a spastic sideways flailing motion with his left foreleg as he swung it forward, as if he were swatting at flies. ... One observer compared his action to a duck waddle.

+1. Rossi's gait has nothing to do with whether or not he cheated.

An even better example than Seabiscuit is AlSal. No matter what else you might think of him, Salazar was unquestionably a great marathoner. But his gait was pretty awful. I believe it was Hal Higdon who described it as "a guy running with a big sack of potatoes."

False.

Rossi's biomechanics are unlikely any 3:10-3:15 marathoner I've ever seen. Certainly adds to the evidence he can't run that fast.

Paula's gait was also pretty bad for a WR holder, but she has multiple times to back it up.

Mike has one and only one performance to show he can run a 3:11, and he didn't show up in any pictures along the course.

Duckster or Eggbeater Wins!

Fat hurts wrote:

+1. Rossi's gait has nothing to do with whether or not he cheated.

An even better example than Seabiscuit is AlSal. No matter what else you might think of him, Salazar was unquestionably a great marathoner. But his gait was pretty awful. I believe it was Hal Higdon who described it as "a guy running with a big sack of potatoes."

I don't think anyone has said that, simply that it adds to the unlikelihood that he can run remotely as fast as his LVM time.

With Salazar although the camera quality is poor here

I'm not seeing anything particularly unorthodox unlike The Duckster here

theRealSmokingGunner wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

+1. Rossi's gait has nothing to do with whether or not he cheated.

An even better example than Seabiscuit is AlSal. No matter what else you might think of him, Salazar was unquestionably a great marathoner. But his gait was pretty awful. I believe it was Hal Higdon who described it as "a guy running with a big sack of potatoes."

False.

Rossi's biomechanics are unlikely any 3:10-3:15 marathoner I've ever seen. Certainly adds to the evidence he can't run that fast.

Paula's gait was also pretty bad for a WR holder, but she has multiple times to back it up.

Mike has one and only one performance to show he can run a 3:11, and he didn't show up in any pictures along the course.

Duckster or Eggbeater Wins!

That's exactly my point. Unusual biomechanics proves nothing. Paula is another good example.

The convincing evidence lies elsewhere.

Fat hurts wrote:

theRealSmokingGunner wrote:

False.

Rossi's biomechanics are unlikely any 3:10-3:15 marathoner I've ever seen. Certainly adds to the evidence he can't run that fast.

Paula's gait was also pretty bad for a WR holder, but she has multiple times to back it up.

Mike has one and only one performance to show he can run a 3:11, and he didn't show up in any pictures along the course.

Duckster or Eggbeater Wins!

That's exactly my point. Unusual biomechanics proves nothing. Paula is another good example.

The convincing evidence lies elsewhere.

Note the words "FOR A WR RECORD HOLDER"

His mechanics are not "unusual" ... they are attrocious... not even close to indicative of a 311, and that fact is relevant to his cheating.

Relevant.

therealSmokingGunner wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

That's exactly my point. Unusual biomechanics proves nothing. Paula is another good example.

The convincing evidence lies elsewhere.

Note the words "FOR A WR RECORD HOLDER"

His mechanics are not "unusual" ... they are attrocious... not even close to indicative of a 311, and that fact is relevant to his cheating.

Relevant.

This woman with unusual biomechanics holds the top three times ever recorded in the marathon.

But no hobby jogger with a waddle could ever run 3:11? I'm sure one could find counterexamples.

Rossi's mechanics are irrelevant.

Her mechanics are several orders of magnitude better than the cheater Mike Rossi. She also is under suspicion of PEDs.I have never seen a runner with Mike's horrendous stride run so fast, if there is an example find it. Although not in itself the single reason the cheater Mike Rossi should be DQ'ed, it does go into the mountain of evidence that the cheater Mike Rossi cheated and Barb McKeever is incompetent - or worse - for not DQing him.

Fat hurts wrote:

This woman with unusual biomechanics holds the top three times ever recorded in the marathon.

But no hobby jogger with a waddle could ever run 3:11? I'm sure one could find counterexamples.

Rossi's mechanics are irrelevant.