If the person is over 18 and you are calling his parent, coach or administrator then you are violating his right to privacy under the HIPPA laws.
If the person is over 18 and you are calling his parent, coach or administrator then you are violating his right to privacy under the HIPPA laws.
SOOO.. wrote:
No one knows what happened? Well I'm the Dad of one of those underage atletes at Oregon. This all sounds criminal to me, not to mention my son could die at any time because they are all drinking at these different locations. Right on site. So I'm getting an attorney cause I think the school and coaches should be held accountable for their knowledge and no action. Lets see where the law suit fits into play here! So A.J. feels he is a tough guy huh?
Dude, this attitude on the parents side is the REASON why people go crazy in college. They are being kept on a short leash all their life with someone saying "don't drink", "don't stay out late", "don't date/have sex", that they just go crazy once the control is gone.
How about letting them decide what to do and instead work on teaching them to make the right calls on their own.
You can't stop them from drinking when they want to. But you can get them to be responsible while doing it. I have been drinking (moderately 98% of the time) since I was 16 (Born and Raised in Europe) and I have never been in fight, injured or hospitalized. Drinking just isn't that big of a deal when it's not 'the forbidden fruit'.
Get real people, you know what you were like when you were young.
...brother.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
If the person is over 18 and you are calling his parent, coach or administrator then you are violating his right to privacy under the HIPPA laws.
As a 50 year old male, I had more than my share of falling down drunk stories from my college days. Nearly everyone has over indulged during those years. However, anyone that says that a 20 year old is an adult is idiotic. I know very few 25 year olds that are adults. I am not saying that I was any better at that age and I would not of changed a thing as I never had more fun. But drop the "THEY ARE ADULTS AND ARE OLD ENOUGH TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES" because that is just plain bull shit. College students are definitly kids.
Many college students are immature. That does not change the fact that legally they are adults. They are entitled to make their own decisions and deal with the consequences both positive and negative. There is not a maturity test for becoming and adult.
By 25 I had been married for several years and was a father. Not sure why you didn't know anybody who was mature at 25.
Like the other guy pointed out, you start calling coaches, parents, etc and you are going to get slapped with a HIPPA violation and the lawsuit for that would probably be worse than for turning the kid out drunk.
I didn't say you release them onto the street drunk, just that they would let them sleep it off, maybe move to observation, talk to a social worker, etc. Once they are sober and feeling better they are discharged. What lawsuit could you possibly face for that?
wga flying f wrote:
You can be sure that most of the people who didnt win were drinking that night too.
Stop pretending that all these kids are alcoholics.
Right, you're a drunk and they are drunks.
no more pretending wrote:
wga flying f wrote:You can be sure that most of the people who didnt win were drinking that night too.
Stop pretending that all these kids are alcoholics.
Right, you're a drunk and they are drunks.
There is a difference between being drunk and being a drunk. But you wouldn't know it if you are prude.
Mr. Obvious wrote:
If the person is over 18 and you are calling his parent, coach or administrator then you are violating his right to privacy under the HIPPA laws.
unless they've given consent to be called. most college freshman probably do, without thinking twice about it.
- and with good reason!
let me get this straight... an 18 year old needs to have his/her parents called if in a hospital drunk because they're a "kid/child?"
...so in other words, we have children fighting our wars?
...so the jibber-jabbers on here should be working up some lawsuits about how children are being killed by the armny, right?
and i bet the hospital staff knew who LP was, right? wow, there are some dumb people out there...
I think they should be honored for underage drinking and I for one think that it is really cool.
Did AJ go to Oregon to run track, or to get drunk and be a bad influence on the team. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the drinking comments on this thread are from him.
I also wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't run another track meet for Oregon.
They did the right thing kicking him off of the team.
They didn't kick him off the team, they suspended him. If every athlete who got ever drunk was kicked off his team, there would only be a few people left to run NCAAs at the end of the season.
nowhere to go wrote:
Did AJ go to Oregon to run track, or to get drunk and be a bad influence on the team. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the drinking comments on this thread are from him.
I also wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't run another track meet for Oregon.
They did the right thing kicking him off of the team.
no question running was important, but he might have also gone to oregon so as to obtain a college degree, right? i mean, stranger things have happened?
Yes, I meant HIPAA, thank you for the correction.
I really have no comment on the AJ situation. I just think the dude posting about the hospital and their need to protect themselves from liability, calling parents, etc. is just an idiot. He does not work in health care and never has. A hospital has no positive obligation to notify a third party and cannot coerce consent. How is a court going to hold them legally responsible for not doing that?
Wow, I'm sure glad I don't run for Oregon, I'd be suspended like twice every week.
nowhere to go wrote:
Did AJ go to Oregon to run track, or to get drunk and be a bad influence on the team. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the drinking comments on this thread are from him.
I also wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't run another track meet for Oregon.
They did the right thing kicking him off of the team.
1. I would doubt that any of the drinking comments in this thread are from this thread, and say it's impossible that ALL of them did, since I posted some of them under a different name and as you can see, this is a registered name with a princeton.edu email address... Don't think even AJ could talk his way into getting an email address from here.
2. So anyone who drinks in the presence of underage teammates is a bad influence and should be kicked off their team? How many juniors and seniors would be left in the NCAA? Probably around 5-10% of what we have now.
Again! wrote:
Again! YOU are wrong, and that may just be the way your agency or hospital does it. Very dangerous. No one said the hospital drives him home. No matter how the law suit comes down on you they are gonna say YOU RELEASED HIM TOTALLY drunk! Ya better check the law suits out there. It apparently has not hit you yet. The day will come when it does. If you researched the successful law suits nationwide you would just crap your pants. I been doing this 37 years. Its a matter of time. Finally now we are over to the PSYCH WARD, THANK YOU, they are the ones that usually call the responsible adult or coach or parent. The vast majority of the time the underage kid is NOT COOPERATIVE! He just wants to get stitched up and his drunk buddy is waiting, causing trouble in the waiting room. What if this underage drunken kid comes back to your ER next week for the same problem. You do nothing again? When the law suit hits you guys, good luck telling the Law Firm for the family you don't get in trouble for this thing. My hospital will have no worries, because we released him to the head responsible adult assigned to this. AND THEN OUR PSYCH REP will probably call his parent in whatever state and inform them of the PSYCH's concern. Will probably find out here no one was drunk at all, heck we don't even have the real story.
1. I thought doctors were supposed to be smart, your English skills suck.
2. You are probably thinking of instances where the "underage drunken kid" is under 18. For an 18-20 year old, the hospital is under no obligation to inform his parents, any more than a cop is obligated to inform his parents if he gets a speeding ticket. They're legally adults so their parents aren't necessary intermediaries except for in certain specific cases, which do not include falling down while drunk.
3. i THINK your CAPS LOCK is BROKEN
Again! wrote:
Again! YOU are wrong, and that may just be the way your agency or hospital does it. Very dangerous. No one said the hospital drives him home. No matter how the law suit comes down on you they are gonna say YOU RELEASED HIM TOTALLY drunk! Ya better check the law suits out there. It apparently has not hit you yet. The day will come when it does. If you researched the successful law suits nationwide you would just crap your pants. I been doing this 37 years. Its a matter of time. Finally now we are over to the PSYCH WARD, THANK YOU, they are the ones that usually call the responsible adult or coach or parent. The vast majority of the time the underage kid is NOT COOPERATIVE! He just wants to get stitched up and his drunk buddy is waiting, causing trouble in the waiting room. What if this underage drunken kid comes back to your ER next week for the same problem. You do nothing again? When the law suit hits you guys, good luck telling the Law Firm for the family you don't get in trouble for this thing. My hospital will have no worries, because we released him to the head responsible adult assigned to this. AND THEN OUR PSYCH REP will probably call his parent in whatever state and inform them of the PSYCH's concern. Will probably find out here no one was drunk at all, heck we don't even have the real story.
You've been doing THIS for 37 years? Really? Now I am crapping my pants.
He can always join the awesome club team Oregon has... It has been the home to those who have risen to the real team, and others who have fallen from its graces...
AJ no longer on "double secret probation" according to the Register Guard
http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/sports/14000293-41/story.csp