Atlantic Region DIII XC

Matt Turlip, 418, Group 1 Final

Joe Mckenney, 421, Group 4 Final, also NJ MOC winner indoor 3200, 2005. 9:20

I'm from the same county as Joe, i know after his big state win as a soph, he was injured alot on and off for the next 2 years. He seems like he will be a 5k/ 10k guy if he stays healthy.

Mini-SUNYAC meet in Buff State this weekend....yes its the first week of the season and it's September 2nd but still can see a bit where some of the teams are at and see how the freshmen pan out in their first 8K race.

Fredonia, Buffalo State, Oswego, Geneseo, and Brockport will all be in attendance. No Malone, Slippery Rock, or IUP, or Houghton this year to throw in some wildcards and mix it up with the SUNYAC squads.

Anyone know anybody else coming?

I fully expect Geneseo to dominate...possibly 15 the meet unless Forma or Beringer can get in there and mix it up. It will be interesting to see what kind of shape Buchannon and Adams are in for Buff State.

Fredonia’s '07 roster lists ten freshmen. Bound to be some sleepers in that mix.

Geneseo’s roster is even more impressive with fourteen.

Plattsburgh has eight newbie’s listed.

Cortland is also stacked with new guys as usual. The absence Ken Little seems like a blow to their roster though…

...so anybody have any info on how everyone ran this weekend?

I ran great, thanks for asking.

he did

As I'm sure everyone noticed...Geneseo rested their top upperclassmen and let their lower end guys as well as their freshmen run at Buff State. Geneseo's upperclassmen ran a tempo workout before the race around the course instead.

As i thought, Ryan O"connor ran exceptionally well for Geneseo breaking 26 in his first 8K ever and finishing 2nd behind a Mount Union runner. Bill Juda also ran well for Geneseo finishing 5th in 26:12. Those two will definitely be competiting to be in Geneseo's top 7.

Brockport has a very solid op 3. Pete Manketlow was a little bit of a surprise leading the Golden eagles with a 6th place finish in 26:13. Drew Cartwright and Andy Beringer ran well together and broke 27 after tempoing the first 2 miles.

Buff State was helped big time by the addition of Bryan Buchannon and Ben Adams. They give Buff State two front runners which they severely lacked before. Buchannon finished 9th and Adams was 21st.

Oswego had a strong pack of 4 with Chris Reich leading the way in 20th. Matt Densmore was 26th and then Dunning and Anderson both ran in the 27:50's. Oswego lacks a front runner though this year as they have no Battista, Fellows, or Beck to lead the way.

Fredonia didnt run Tom williams..strategy? Andy Forma was WELL out of shape and finished over 29 minutes. However, a great freshmen performance from Andy Dunscombe with a 27:30 was nice to see for the Devils.

Overall, it was a typical first meet of the season and many teams didnt show their full hands whether they tempoed for awhile or didnt run their full teams. The Geneseo Invite at the end of the month should give a more accurate read of where everyone is.

It's gotta be comforting for Coach Woods to know that his B team can beat every SUNYAC school this year minus Cortland though.

NYU opened on Saturday over 6k. Kept the top seven out. Won anyway.

http://www.nyu.edu/athletics/teams/xc/m

Gotta love that NYU's SID can't spell "Van Cortlandt" correctly. It's just the school's home course...

Yeah, but it's probably not all that comforting to know that Cortland can sweep his "a" team.

Idk about that stank...

Cortland is awfully good but I'm pretty sure Genny's got plenty of guys that can break that up if not make it awfully close between the two teams.

I'll be making a power rankings list for the SUNYAC either next week or the week after once all the teams have ran to see where things are at.

I'm thinking that Geneseo could definitely break up the top 5. I don't think they could make it close though. Geneseo should be able to put 2 inside Cortland's top 5, maybe 3 or 4 inside top 7, but not much more than that.

anybody could put whatever they want in cortlands team . . .

SUNYAC Fan wrote:

Idk about that stank...

Cortland is awfully good but I'm pretty sure Genny's got plenty of guys that can break that up if not make it awfully close between the two teams.

SUNYAC 5k

1 Fred Joslyn SR Cortland 15:04.23#ECAC 10

2 Andy Cloke SR Cortland 15:04.62#ECAC 8

3 Seth DuBois FR Cortland 15:05.19#ECAC 6

4 Nate Lockett SR Geneseo 15:19.00#ECAC 5

5 Jerry Greenlaw FR Cortland 15:19.78#ECAC 4

6 Jesse Berube FR Geneseo 15:31.86 ECAC 3

7 Josh Henry SO Cortland 15:36.86 2

8 Will Haskell SO Geneseo 15:38.34 1

SUNYAC 10k

1 Jerry Greenlaw FR Cortland 31:43.71*ECAC 10

2 Shamus Nally SO Cortland 31:43.82*ECAC 8

3 Fred Joslyn SR Cortland 31:43.83*ECAC 6

4 Seth DuBois FR Cortland 31:44.00*ECAC 5

5 Josh Henry SO Cortland 31:54.35#ECAC 4

6 Robert Asher SR Plattsburgh 31:57.43#ECAC 3

7 Ryan Mulcahy JR Geneseo 32:37.24 ECAC 2

8 Tony Battista SR Oswego 32:43.44 ECAC 1

Obviously you take out Joslyn, but then you still got a slew of other guys who are just waiting to jump into the bigger picture. DeRusso, O'Brien, Wager, etc., etc.

Cortland has the pieces to beat and sweep SUNY G and I will not be the least bit surprised if it happens. Especially with the way Moran's guys have been improving since he got there.

and omit cloke

XC is a different game than running distance on the track. What you need to consider are the 8k PRs of the geneseo squad, the fact that they seem to be resting the top group instead of storming out of the gates like last season. Cortland while talented upfront is looking to middistance track guys to round out their 4-7 spots as well as freshmen. Moran did a hell of a job throughout the year with that crew but they go Shamus, Dubois, Henry probably baracca then ...... ?

Even Baracca hasn't shown great consistency in the past. While they are the favorites over geneseo for the conference its complete bias against a geneseo program that has far too much talent experience and history to ignore to say they'll get swept. Thats just outrageous: Berube 25:33, Mulcahy 25:36, Haskell 25:37, lockett 25:39, O'connor 25:55, Gabler 26:00, Dolan 26:07, Juda 26:12

yoyo wrote:

XC is a different game than running distance on the track. What you need to consider are the 8k PRs of the geneseo squad, the fact that they seem to be resting the top group instead of storming out of the gates like last season. Cortland while talented upfront is looking to middistance track guys to round out their 4-7 spots as well as freshmen. Moran did a hell of a job throughout the year with that crew but they go Shamus, Dubois, Henry probably baracca then ...... ?

Even Baracca hasn't shown great consistency in the past. While they are the favorites over geneseo for the conference its complete bias against a geneseo program that has far too much talent experience and history to ignore to say they'll get swept. Thats just outrageous: Berube 25:33, Mulcahy 25:36, Haskell 25:37, lockett 25:39, O'connor 25:55, Gabler 26:00, Dolan 26:07, Juda 26:12

Geneseo will continue to be the most overrated team in the atlantic region. While every other team in the region will continue to make up ground on Corhland they will continue to make excuses just like last year with Berube and Mulcahy.

Look to Brockport to steal the 2nd position in the SUNYAC from the overrated geneseo boys team this year. Or even some other team... I don;t know why everybody continues to beat their meat over suny-g while they get raped by cortland... but more pwer to them if they think they have a chance....

idk about Brockport...it has only been one race I realize that but they look quite a bit weaker from last year 1-5...(5 really hurts them)I think it'll be close to impossible for any team to knock Geneseo out of second but if I had to pick someone to do it I'd pick Plattsburgh over Brockport to do it...Heyman looks pretty good that D1 transfer they were talking about could be pretty good (who knows he didn't race saturday) and their next 4 could be a decent pack (Burdick Bilidoeau sp? Swartz and Ketchum)

its so early its tough to tell but thats the fun in it I guess...if b'port can get Wilcox to get a bit faster they might be able to do it but p'burgh looks better right now IMO

SUNYAC 2007 (men’s)

1. Cortland (Their B team could probably win the conference)

2. Geneseo (Solid second spot)

3. Plattsburgh (3 spot could be a toss up between Plattsburgh and Brockport)

4. Brockport

5. Oswego (Spots 5, 6, 7, could go to OSU, FU, or OSU. Depends on progression of each teams top 3)

6. Fredonia

7. Oneonta

8. SUNYIT (Unlike some years, spots 8-10 will be highly contested)

9. New Paltz (Should reinstate their track team)

10. Potsdam

yoyo wrote:

XC is a different game than running distance on the track. What you need to consider are the 8k PRs of the geneseo squad, the fact that they seem to be resting the top group instead of storming out of the gates like last season. Cortland while talented upfront is looking to middistance track guys to round out their 4-7 spots as well as freshmen. Moran did a hell of a job throughout the year with that crew but they go Shamus, Dubois, Henry probably baracca then ...... ?

Even Baracca hasn't shown great consistency in the past. While they are the favorites over geneseo for the conference its complete bias against a geneseo program that has far too much talent experience and history to ignore to say they'll get swept. Thats just outrageous: Berube 25:33, Mulcahy 25:36, Haskell 25:37, lockett 25:39, O'connor 25:55, Gabler 26:00, Dolan 26:07, Juda 26:12

Shamus Nally, So 24:52

Seth Dubois, Fr 25:22

Josh Henry, So 25:25

Jerry Greenlaw, Fr 25:41

Justin Wager, Fr 25:48

These aren't even PRs, just results from 1 race last year. No DeRusso or O'Brien either.