President Obama: "I don't jog, I run."

it's not that simple, as you can poll 50 economists on this question and certainly not get a uniform answer - not even close.

Giving credit to Barry for ending the recession would be like crediting me for paying off my mortgage, yet overlooking that I did so by maxing out a bunch of credit cards..

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one and done wrote:

Anytime you post from a liberal source, you have ZERO credibility. Fail.

Really? Where do you get your "facts"?

The facts were cited by the CBO. Again, you fail to present an argument and instead throw out biased statements from a liberal rag.

one and done wrote:

Huh?? wrote:

Really? Where do you get your "facts"?

The facts were cited by the CBO. Again, you fail to present an argument and instead throw out biased statements from a liberal rag.

Maybe I am just being ornery, but how can you trust the CBO? Do you think our government will give honest information, either?

MAURICE wrote:

it's not that simple, as you can poll 50 economists on this question and certainly not get a uniform answer - not even close.

Giving credit to Barry for ending the recession would be like crediting me for paying off my mortgage, yet overlooking that I did so by maxing out a bunch of credit cards..

Did you even read what I wrote? I am NOT giving credit to Obama for ending the recession. I said exactly NOT that. BUT, the recession is over and has been since June 2009. Any "economist" who says we're still in recession either just doesn't accept the definition of recession for some reason or they don't know what they are talking about.

The thing about calling a recession is that it IS as simple as that. There are only two accepted ways to call a recession A) if we've had two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth, and B) if the NBER says so. That's it. No other person on the planet gets to correctly say we're in a recession if the other two ways say we're not. It really IS that simple.

Dr. Rosenrosen wrote:

Why is he terrible?

Is it because he:

Got BL

Passed healthcare

Ended Iraq war

Turned around U.S. auto industry

Repealed DADT

Increased support for veterans by increasing VA budget

Sock market up

Ended recession

The number #1 issue for Obama is unemployment. But considering we just went through the biggest financial crisis since the great depression it's understandable that it would take several years to fix. It took the U.S. almost over 10 years to get back on it's feet and that was only because we entered WWII.

Bin Laden was dead September 11, 2001 he just didn't know it yet. Matter of time. Caught using programs and intelligence gathered under bush that Obama bashed.

Healthcare "reform" is a diaster and will be found unconstitutional. I work in the healthcare industry it's a nightmare.

We are still in iraq and will be forever. Plus he is looking to post up 15,000 troops in Kuwait indefinetly. I can say anything but it doesn't mean it's true.

By turned around the auto industry you mean bailed out the UAW which at the current GM stock price we own is about $35 billion. We gave them $100 billion in loans and tax forgiveness. Math is hard.

DADT - Clinton's solution. Big deal no one cares.

You might want to take a look at where the va money goes and how it's spent before you start bragging about that.

Stock market is up, funny 5 years ago the stock market didn't matter. The federal reserve is pumping and dumping the system it's fake and will soon collapse in on itself.

Ended recession, really? we are in a depression made worse by his economic policies just like FDR. I know the requirements for recession but discount fed monies and we are in the hole.

Obama isn't about solutions he's about payoffs and division, the Chicago way.

He will probably still win because we have a large enough scumbag, lowlife, uneducated, apathetic, government dependent voting block.

The idea that anyone in DC - or anywhere else - can credibly cite an accurate GDP figure is laughable. These are the same clowns who consistently quote unemployment as artificially low, then quietly revise their figure upwards at a later date. The only think we know for sure about GDP is that it's definitely less than it was 6 years ago..

If you're not crediting Chooma for ending the recession, than what's the point of your point? Just citing meaningless economic stats for the hell of it?

Not sure what you're trying to say with that link. Says nothing about a recession, so that can't be it. Says that Romney as of that poll has a 44% to 47% loss still to Obama, so it can't be showing that Obama will lose.Are there people who are upset with Obama? Yes. Will he still win in November? Yes. Without question.

steve martin wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Did you even read what I wrote? I am NOT giving credit to Obama for ending the recession. I said exactly NOT that. BUT, the recession is over and has been since June 2009. Any "economist" who says we're still in recession either just doesn't accept the definition of recession for some reason or they don't know what they are talking about.

The thing about calling a recession is that it IS as simple as that. There are only two accepted ways to call a recession A) if we've had two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth, and B) if the NBER says so. That's it. No other person on the planet gets to correctly say we're in a recession if the other two ways say we're not. It really IS that simple.

http://news.yahoo.com/poll-obama-loses-advantage-economic-anxieties-increase-063013702.html

While most of what you say is bunk, the assumption you make about uneducated people helping to get Obama re-elected is crap. The more education you have, the more likely you are to vote Democrat. That's a fact.

Flagpole wrote:

While most of what you say is bunk, the assumption you make about uneducated people helping to get Obama re-elected is crap. The more education you have, the more likely you are to vote Democrat. That's a fact.

Flagpole's right. These Obama voters match his intelligence and education:

jacky martling wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

While most of what you say is bunk, the assumption you make about uneducated people helping to get Obama re-elected is crap. The more education you have, the more likely you are to vote Democrat. That's a fact.

Flagpole's right. These Obama voters match his intelligence and education:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqAiarOhC2Uhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI&feature=fvwrel

Dude, I could post links to toothless backwater rednecks saying they are voting for Republicans because they won't take away their guns.

What I said initially is true...the more education you have, the more likely you are to vote Democrat. Once again, that's a fact.

MAURICE wrote:

The idea that anyone in DC - or anywhere else - can credibly cite an accurate GDP figure is laughable. These are the same clowns who consistently quote unemployment as artificially low, then quietly revise their figure upwards at a later date. The only think we know for sure about GDP is that it's definitely less than it was 6 years ago..

If you're not crediting Chooma for ending the recession, than what's the point of your point? Just citing meaningless economic stats for the hell of it?

Point? Obama is a failure and will be gone soon, but not soon enough.

If by "soon" you mean 2017, then you're right.

"Obama leads Romney 53 percent to 40 percent among likely voters..."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-20/obama-leads-in-poll-as-voters-view-romney-as-out-of-touch.html

That only makes sense, given that the vast majority of folks in the education business are at best socialists & at worst, marxist sympathizers. Society's producers tend not to overestimate the value of advanced degree on top of advanced degree. They're less likely to be a career student, since they're more interested in building, producing, and actually contributing - rather than spending their life in academia, aka wonderland, sheltered from the harsh realities of the real world. Look at Chooma Bong & his cabinet. A hodgepodge collection of buffoons who've spent their lives lecturing impressionable kids about the evils of American capitalism at Ivy League institutions that compete among each other for who can be the most PC, anti-white, anti-traditional values, anti-American cesspool of conformity. You'd think a university would be the one place where honest debate & discussion is encouraged & rewarded. Ever notice what happens though when a "conservative" is invited to speak at one of these nutball campuses? They go absolutely apesh#t, as if the very idea of a dissenting opinion being expressed is somehow toxic.

"Leaders" in American gov't school education - i.e. those most culpable for driving the world's finest education system into the ground in only 40 years - are also overwhelmingly leftist, so many of the millions of our teachers & professors who are pushed to get their masters & phD are obviously going to be democrats, just as most other union employees are. It's silly to therefore imply the 'smart guys' are for Obama. Advanced degrees - particularly in the field of education - do not necessarily mean a more intelligent individual..

7.7/10

Big props for inciting responses from posters who believe you are serious.

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Big props for inciting responses from posters who believe you are serious.

Wrong, bud. Maurice is speaking the truth. That whole rant about Ivy League schools was right on the mark. Don't tell me that academia is a bastion of conservative thinking. Obama has stocked his cabinet with career political hacks. Those are the facts.