While this has already been announced as Coach Young's final heps, this should also be Coach Irelands as well. Yale Cross country is a joke, and it shouldnt be.
While this has already been announced as Coach Young's final heps, this should also be Coach Irelands as well. Yale Cross country is a joke, and it shouldnt be.
Men:
Official team scores: 1. Princeton, 33; 2. Dartmouth, 55; 3. Columbia, 94; 4. Penn, 118; 5. Cornell, 126; 6. Harvard, 141; 7. Yale, 149; 8. Brown, 188.
Individual results: 1. Donn Cabral (Princeton), 24:03.8; 2. Dan Chenoweth (Harvard), 24:14.0; 3. Ethan Shaw (Dartmouth), 24:23.7; 4. Tom Poland (Columbia), 24:30.4; 5. Brian Leung (Princeton), 24:35.6; 6. Kyle Soloff (Princeton), 24:37.8; 7. Adrien Dannemiller (Cornell), 24:39.4; 8. Mark Amirault (Princeton), 24:41.2; 9. Jeff Perrella (Yale), 24:44.3; 10. Phil Royer (Dartmouth), 24:45.3.
tough break to lose with 55 points - that would win almost every year
In 2005 Princeton lost with 47 points. It's what makes this meet so much fun to watch, and why it sucks that I missed it!
I think it is encouraging for Dartmouth to be up there with a nationally ranked team. Regionals could be really interesting.
ex-bulldog xc wrote:
While this has already been announced as Coach Young's final heps, this should also be Coach Irelands as well. Yale Cross country is a joke, and it shouldnt be.
QFE
Watching the tight pack cruise the first flat mile against the background of foliage was one of the most beautiful sights I have ever seen. Every runner came through the first mile in 4:53-5:02. Gorgeous morning, congrats to all the runners.
Although I do think the first mile was measured long (and the second one). It was probably more like a 4:45-454 spread.
VCP_runna wrote:
Watching the tight pack cruise the first flat mile against the background of foliage was one of the most beautiful sights I have ever seen. Every runner came through the first mile in 4:53-5:02. Gorgeous morning, congrats to all the runners.
Agreed - what a perfect day for a big cross country race. Especially with all the spectators done up in school colors - really fun.
Q: What does a recent Columbia graduate have to do with the appearance of the Men's Dartmouth Team in the post-event pictures?
The clue is: "Less sleeves equals..."
So how will Princeton manage to mess up at the Regionals and struggle in fourth ??
Princeton would have won without Cabral.
Penn with the surprise 4th, what a turnaround
A harsh comment, but plausible. They may want to consider adopting a different training regimen, something to the likes of Princeton's or Columbia's.
As it happened, I was at the Ivy League's meet today (getting a look at the course for the UAA meet, tomorrow), and at one point was standing next to the Cornell tent (the Ivy schools erected team tents along the finishing straightaway--a nice touch), where I overheard someone saying that he thought the meet was the Cornell men's worst race of the season.
Cornell seemed to have a 3+ strategy today: their top three men went to the front, right from the start, while the rest of their team fell in right at the back of the pack. I'm guessing the plan was that they would pace themselves and work their way up through the field.
That's probably sound physiologically--I'm told that the Ivy League race always starts much too fast--but it requires a) a course with sufficient room to pass guys, and b) a very mentally-tough team that will actively be passing in the middle stages of the race, so the runners will be where they "belong" at 3/4 of the way through the race (in VCP's current configuration, I'm guessing that would have been between the Back Hills and the men's second trip up the Cowpath).
But sound physiology may not work if you have a narrow course and a pack that stays together (and it was wonderful to see *all* the competitors in a tight pack in the first mile). The whole field has gone out too fast; now you're winded and at the back of the pack, and you're supposed to pass guys on the Cowpath and Back Hills--narrow trails where you'll have to fight for each pass through a dense pack? That's a tall order. Cornell's remaining scorers did improve their positions some, but I'm not sure how much actual "gaining" they did--it seemed more a question of some guys in front of them slowing down, really.
While I was standing by that tent, after Cornell's uninspiring performance, I heard a medium-sized middle-aged guy say, repeatedly, to a runner who was standing there, "Okay, I know just what we'll do after this." Finally the kid said, "Okay, John, you're the coach."
Would that have been JK? (I know it wasn't RoJo--I've seen the BrosJo.) Does he do some/all of the team's coaching? Is he on staff, or a consultant? I guess it's hard for an outsider to understand the dynamic there.
Anyway, that race had a terrific field (Princeton and Dartmouth were *very* impressive). I don't think Cornell ran terribly; they just would have had to have one of their better days to finish in the top half of that race, and it sounds like they had one of their lesser days. Tough league, tough race. Fun meet to watch! (Tomorrow's should be, too.)
Well, there's more meets left in the season. We'll see how these Ivy teams do in coming weeks. I'll say that they impressed me today. Congratulations to Princeton's winners, and plaudits for the excellent performances of Dartmouth's men and the Columbia & Brown women!
I would also agree, my Penn Quakers had their best meet all year . . . Top 4 with a differential of 1.5 seconds is a way to do it !
quizzer wrote:
Q: What does a recent Columbia graduate have to do with the appearance of the Men's Dartmouth Team in the post-event pictures?
The clue is: "Less sleeves equals..."
he's no graduate, he's a senior this year. he was in the race for chrissake!
HISTORY MAJOR wrote:
So how will Princeton manage to mess up at the Regionals and struggle in fourth ??
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Conor Paez top freshman at HEPS in XC???? PWNED