Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Sally Vix wrote:

every Trump "scandal" is worse than Watergate.

That's true.

The difference being that in 1974 Republicans stood up for the country.

Today they cower and protect this guy who has a big influence over their voters.

Santa Klauz wrote:

I'll take the .000 batting average during the regular season to hit a home run (Trump general election loss) in the post season. Watching the republican 5hit show is like popping champagne in club house. Democrats have always done stupid crap, but the Trump and republicans are making them look like the most sane and intelligent people on the planet right now.

If you are batting .000 in the regular season you are not getting a chance to hit a home run in the postseason. You have either been permanently benched or have been released from the team.

Sally Vix wrote:

agip wrote:

https://twitter.com/carlbernstein/status/1345845260602155009?s=20

To Bernstein every Trump "scandal" is worse than Watergate. Woodward maintains a level of objectivity. I respect his musings. Bernstein lost it many years ago and is an outright joke.

Lost it as opposed to the what happens if we nuke the hurricane guy?

Sally Vix wrote:

Santa Klauz wrote:

I'll take the .000 batting average during the regular season to hit a home run (Trump general election loss) in the post season. Watching the republican 5hit show is like popping champagne in club house. Democrats have always done stupid crap, but the Trump and republicans are making them look like the most sane and intelligent people on the planet right now.

If you are batting .000 in the regular season you are not getting a chance to hit a home run in the postseason. You have either been permanently benched or have been released from the team.

Trump lost. We are batting 1.000 and you are 0.000 with no hits left. But you do get to enjoy Groundhog Day permanently.

Not the case this year was it?

agip wrote:

Flybang mosh wrote:

So what is it that you, your neo-liberal friends, and Carl Bernstein think is so dramatically different right at this moment, than every other "conceivable moment in US history"? I'm looking for an actual explanation, if you care to give it. "Trumpers are all retards" or "Trumpers are all racists" are not explanations with any substance or meaning, so if that's you first impulse, consider thinking a bit more in-depth. Why is this one particular moment in time so different than every other "conceivable moment in US history" that this "tape" doesn't lead to both parties demanding resignation of the President of the United States?

potus is actively pushing election fraud.

that too simple for you?

Respectfully, you missed the question entirely.

1101 wrote:

agip wrote:

pence is one of the most indescribable, disgusting, awful cowards ever to walk American soil

https://twitter.com/rollcall/status/1346473050078777356?s=20

Gonna have to agree.

This one catches me completely by surprise. (Fat Hurts probably predicted it some time back)

They know this circus won't change the outcome of Biden taking over, but it will reinforce the brainwashing and possibly change outcomes down the road.. in their favor they believe. I say drop the hammer, kick out all the seditionists and start prosecuting.

God I love that last picture. A "billionaire" and that's the best he can do. Just keeps winning. Thats the guy his followers call tough and a fighter, whiniest b!tch on t he planet, Fat, orange and stupid.

1101 wrote:

agip wrote:

potus is actively pushing election fraud.

that too simple for you?

Respectfully, you missed the question entirely.

by all means, clarify the question then.

To my mind, what is different this time is that potus is actively working to steal an election, via illegal means. That's never happened before.

If the point is that no one from the president's party would ever push back against the pres, well we have the Nixon example to counter that. Rs told an R president the game was up.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

But wouldn't that be the case for any country? I always said his best bet is Russia. Putin would protect him and in exchange he would get the ultimate prize, the scalp of a POTUS.

Protecting him and having his scalp seems like a condratiction. What if he had Trump spout Russian propaganda? Where would Trump golf during the winter?

As a former president, Trump will have enough trade-able state secrets to keep him safe and happy for quite awhile.

The thing that makes me think Turkey is a good choice is because he has his name on Trump Towers Istanbul. Trump would want to move in and treat it as his palace in exile. That would suit his ego quite well.

The Turkish people wouldn't like it because of the Muslim ban. But Erdoğan would love having him as a valuable asset.

agip wrote:

Flybang mosh wrote:

So what is it that you, your neo-liberal friends, and Carl Bernstein think is so dramatically different right at this moment, than every other "conceivable moment in US history"? I'm looking for an actual explanation, if you care to give it. "Trumpers are all retards" or "Trumpers are all racists" are not explanations with any substance or meaning, so if that's you first impulse, consider thinking a bit more in-depth. Why is this one particular moment in time so different than every other "conceivable moment in US history" that this "tape" doesn't lead to both parties demanding resignation of the President of the United States?

potus is actively pushing election fraud.

that too simple for you?

You are confused. That is not an explanation for why this moment is so different that every other "conceivable moment" such that, in every other conceivable moment both parties would be pushing for resignation of the President, but this one particular moment sticks out as one where that is not happening. It's not even close to an explanation. It's actually part of alleged phenomena I'm asking you to explain to begin with.

What is particular to this specific moment in US history, such that this "tape" where the President is, in your words, "actively pushing election fraud," does not result in both parties demanding the President's resignation, whereas every other "conceivable moment in US history" would have such a result?

Do you understand what I'm asking? It's somewhat nuanced, which makes it difficult to answer for many of your B-level friends here. But you did post the Bernstein quote, as if it was something worth thinking about - i.e., you cited it with approval as it you understood it.

Flybang mosh wrote:

So what is it that you, your neo-liberal friends, and Carl Bernstein think is so dramatically different right at this moment, than every other "conceivable moment in US history"? I'm looking for an actual explanation, if you care to give it. "Trumpers are all retards" or "Trumpers are all racists" are not explanations with any substance or meaning, so if that's you first impulse, consider thinking a bit more in-depth. Why is this one particular moment in time so different than every other "conceivable moment in US history" that this "tape" doesn't lead to both parties demanding resignation of the President of the United States?

Watergate Nixon was involved in a cover-up of something his campaign did, and his party ran him out of office when the whole thing blew up and became public.

Here Trump directly contacted and tried coerce the Secretary of State of Georgia to change the results of an elect, and his party is cheering him on.

I think it's fair to say that directly change the results of an election after it has happened and been certified is worse than covering up misdeeds by your campaign before the election. And having a political party back up an out of control president from their party is worse than having a political party stand up to an out of control president from their party.

It's really not that hard to figure it out if you're willing to look at things objectively.

agip wrote:

1101 wrote:

Respectfully, you missed the question entirely.

by all means, clarify the question then.

To my mind, what is different this time is that potus is actively working to steal an election, via illegal means. That's never happened before.

If the point is that no one from the president's party would ever push back against the pres, well we have the Nixon example to counter that. Rs told an R president the game was up.

You answered the question: "What is the POTUS doing that is despicable?"

You did not answer the question: "Why don't both parties demand his resignation?" (which was the question.

"Why is this one particular moment in time so different than every other "conceivable moment in US history" that this "tape" doesn't lead to both parties demanding resignation of the President of the United States?"

This is not an explanation or answer to my inquiry/question.

Santa Klauz wrote:

God I love that last picture. A "billionaire" and that's the best he can do. Just keeps winning. Thats the guy his followers call tough and a fighter, whiniest b!tch on t he planet, Fat, orange and stupid.

A travesty that God would allow anyone to go through fat, orange and stupid.

You sound emotionally erratic Sally. Did you forget to take your anxiety pills today? Maybe you should explain in what way trump isn't criminal and seditious.

Sally Vix wrote:

Santa Klauz wrote:

God I love that last picture. A "billionaire" and that's the best he can do. Just keeps winning. Thats the guy his followers call tough and a fighter, whiniest b!tch on t he planet, Fat, orange and stupid.

A travesty that God would allow anyone to go through fat, orange and stupid.

Go through life ...

2 factors that make this moment different.

1. Never before have we seen a political leader who received such blind loyalty from a bloc of Americans as we see with Trump now. His followers truly are sheep; whatever Trump says to do, they do. No questions asked. It's a minority of Americans, but still a sizable enough bloc that the fortunes of other Republican politicians can rise or fall based on Trump's endorsement or criticism.

2. A disappointing and perhaps unprecedented failure of political courage among many of today's Republican political leaders. Other Republicans stood up to Nixon, even if ultimately it cost them the White House. Today's Republican leaders, with few exceptions, cannot find the strength to put country over party, even though the leader of the party is so clearly undermining the country.

Body of Disco Duck wrote:

Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:

Don't be surprised if a state or three begins the process to decertify Biden electors this week.

YAWN!!! There is no such legal authority. All you get is republicans on a few committees "recommending" such action. The recommendation carries zero legal weight, and requires no consideration whatsoever by anyone, because no one has the power to decertify because Fatso, makeup boy, Trump said so.

Meanwhile, Trump is flying to Scotland on Jan 20th for vacation.

Pence also has full authority to reject Biden electors tomorrow. The dem panic begins.