Interesting that Fox News called Arizona for Biden on election night (one week ago, already) and CNN still hasn't called it.
Interesting that Fox News called Arizona for Biden on election night (one week ago, already) and CNN still hasn't called it.
Fat hurts wrote:
Racket wrote:
I don't think he's hiding or in the fetal position. He's the most in denial person on the planet and I think he truly believe he's the rightful winner.
Then why isn't he here declaring his victory?
We got a sneak preview when trump caught COVID. Biff was gone for a good 3 days, not a peep. He couldn't even take the couple of days after election day when it was still up in the air. Spine of a jellyfish. But we all knew he wouldn't keep his word.
Trollminator wrote:
Racket wrote:
He literally did in a press conference last Wednesday or whenever and he's been tweeting about it ever since
He's talking about the great bend over biff. I am pretty sure he's been lurking with his "Dem are pieces of trash" posts.
Ah, thought we were talking about Trump - I stand by what I said in that respect.
L L wrote:
Interesting that Fox News called Arizona for Biden on election night (one week ago, already) and CNN still hasn't called it.
I never looked into that. I have a strong suspicion it was because AP called it first? All the major networks get fed their news from AP and Reuters so likely they just went ahead, but yeah seems like a bit early. I always thought the networks called swing states only when it became clear that mathematically the trailing candidate is unable to catch-up.
L L wrote:
I was told the stock market would crash if Biden was elected.
https://youtu.be/krM_UAoJDQ4?t=6
Let’s revisit this in 6 months.
Curious, what does everyone think were the lessons learned from the last four years for both parties? More from a strategic standpoint across these topics.
- Trump winning in 2016
- SCOTUS
- Impeachment
- Media/messaging
- Policy
- Campaigning for 2020 (both primary and presidential elections)
Given their demographic disadvantage, I think the GOP has been more effective. I don't think their ways will bode well for them in the long run, but they have done pretty well in elections.
Trollminator wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Then why isn't he here declaring his victory?
We got a sneak preview when trump caught COVID. Biff was gone for a good 3 days, not a peep. He couldn't even take the couple of days after election day when it was still up in the air. Spine of a jellyfish. But we all knew he wouldn't keep his word.
Reports are that Q has disappeared also. He hasn't posted since just before the election.
Fat hurts wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
We got a sneak preview when trump caught COVID. Biff was gone for a good 3 days, not a peep. He couldn't even take the couple of days after election day when it was still up in the air. Spine of a jellyfish. But we all knew he wouldn't keep his word.
Reports are that Q has disappeared also. He hasn't posted since just before the election.
By Q you mean that Wall Street tech dude right? Lol, the content there is literally insane. It's like someone got stoned and drunk and decided to predict the future.. it's all completely incoherent, but it's against Dems so it sells. I bet it started as a prank to see how many dupes would fall for it and then they realized they could sell merchandise and take donations. People are so stupid.
Speaking of Q:
"Stickers and a hat with logos of the QAnon conspiracy movement were found in the vehicle, Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner said."
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/07/us/pennsylvania-convention-center-arrests/index.htmlwin win win no matter what wrote:
Let’s revisit this in 6 months.
The market "should" be down in six months, regardless of who the president is and regardless of whether a safe and effective vaccine has been rolled out.
"The markets are not the economy" is true, but eventually the reality of the actual economy tends to seep into the markets. And 2021 is going to be a hard, hard year.
With the GOP doing what it can to keep it that way, of course. Can't have a recovery under a Democratic president!
Flagpole wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Well, it's not all bad news. Just two hours ago CNN projected that we flipped a seat in Georgia.
Go Georgia! I might have to reconsider my plans to move to CA. Georgia could be a contender. It actually has lots of things I like...warm weather, large international airport, very metropolitan/suburban in and around Atlanta, and now, some more enlightened people.
It ALSO does NOT have these negatives that Southern CA does:
Smog
Wild Fires
Earthquakes
I would say high cost of living, but that's not an issue for me these days
Something to consider.
Hey -
If you're serious about moving to ATL, this could be your lucky day. :) Our house is going on the market on Friday. 6 bedroom/7 bath Great custom pool. Theatre room, workout room. 6900sqft in Brookhaven. 2.02M
Let me know if you're interested and we can set up a showing prior to going on the market. We anticipate getting multiple offers on Friday above asking. Just let me know and we can discuss privately and set something up.
Racket wrote:
Smart Poster wrote:
Laugh if you like, but it is clear you are intellectually threatened by flagpole. He's better and smarter than you in every way. You would do well to try to emulate him than to compete with him. You can not win any battle with him. Accept your shortcomings and you will be a happier person.
Can you elaborate further but strictly in iambic pentameter please?
Your lame attempt at humor does not negate what I have said.
kibitzer wrote:
win win win no matter what wrote:
Let’s revisit this in 6 months.
The market "should" be down in six months, regardless of who the president is and regardless of whether a safe and effective vaccine has been rolled out.
"The markets are not the economy" is true, but eventually the reality of the actual economy tends to seep into the markets. And 2021 is going to be a hard, hard year.
With the GOP doing what it can to keep it that way, of course. Can't have a recovery under a Democratic president!
for the record: wall street economists think 2021 will be a year of strong economic growth.
saying otherwise is a minority view.
agip wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
The market "should" be down in six months, regardless of who the president is and regardless of whether a safe and effective vaccine has been rolled out.
"The markets are not the economy" is true, but eventually the reality of the actual economy tends to seep into the markets. And 2021 is going to be a hard, hard year.
With the GOP doing what it can to keep it that way, of course. Can't have a recovery under a Democratic president!
for the record: wall street economists think 2021 will be a year of strong economic growth.
saying otherwise is a minority view.
I could be wrong. It happens with a depressing frequency.
But I'll admit that my emotional prediction of a hard, hard year is colored by more than the economy. I'm a track coach.
kibitzer wrote:
win win win no matter what wrote:
Let’s revisit this in 6 months.
The market "should" be down in six months, regardless of who the president is and regardless of whether a safe and effective vaccine has been rolled out.
"The markets are not the economy" is true, but eventually the reality of the actual economy tends to seep into the markets. And 2021 is going to be a hard, hard year.
With the GOP doing what it can to keep it that way, of course. Can't have a recovery under a Democratic president!
The fed has come to the rescue each and every time... they will keep supporting the asset bubble. As far as the economy, it will be hurting for a while as Biden tries to fix an out of control problem.
Smart Poster wrote:
Racket wrote:
Can you elaborate further but strictly in iambic pentameter please?
Your lame attempt at humor does not negate what I have said.
So is that a "no" on the iambic pentameter?
agip wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
The market "should" be down in six months, regardless of who the president is and regardless of whether a safe and effective vaccine has been rolled out.
"The markets are not the economy" is true, but eventually the reality of the actual economy tends to seep into the markets. And 2021 is going to be a hard, hard year.
With the GOP doing what it can to keep it that way, of course. Can't have a recovery under a Democratic president!
for the record: wall street economists think 2021 will be a year of strong economic growth.
saying otherwise is a minority view.
Yeah, from where we were this year it's hard not to go up, but depending on the COVID damage this winter we could be in for more trouble.
I wonder, are trumpers going to credit Biden when we see stellar year-over-year results? This is a huge Dem shortcoming - they don't know how to boast and take credit for anything good that happens under their watch. I had to hear from family members countless times that trump was great for the economy. They all buy into the propaganda. Why can't Dems use those tactics?
Trollminator wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
The market "should" be down in six months, regardless of who the president is and regardless of whether a safe and effective vaccine has been rolled out.
"The markets are not the economy" is true, but eventually the reality of the actual economy tends to seep into the markets. And 2021 is going to be a hard, hard year.
With the GOP doing what it can to keep it that way, of course. Can't have a recovery under a Democratic president!
The fed has come to the rescue each and every time... they will keep supporting the asset bubble. As far as the economy, it will be hurting for a while as Biden tries to fix an out of control problem.
Most reports coming in are indicating the recession won't be nearly as bad as originally thought. If you're a struggling service industry worker then it sucks worse than usual but that's about it. Like agip said, the majority opinion is that the economy will be strong through 2021
ATLXRunner wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Go Georgia! I might have to reconsider my plans to move to CA. Georgia could be a contender. It actually has lots of things I like...warm weather, large international airport, very metropolitan/suburban in and around Atlanta, and now, some more enlightened people.
It ALSO does NOT have these negatives that Southern CA does:
Smog
Wild Fires
Earthquakes
I would say high cost of living, but that's not an issue for me these days
Something to consider.
Hey -
If you're serious about moving to ATL, this could be your lucky day. :) Our house is going on the market on Friday. 6 bedroom/7 bath Great custom pool. Theatre room, workout room. 6900sqft in Brookhaven. 2.02M
Let me know if you're interested and we can set up a showing prior to going on the market. We anticipate getting multiple offers on Friday above asking. Just let me know and we can discuss privately and set something up.
Hmm. I'm a much more deliberate dude than to consider moving to the ATL one day and act on a house immediately. Need to do more research and ponder for a while first.
Also, to be honest with you, I would rather stick a Tabasco-soaked finger in my eye than live in a 6900 sq. ft. house. Theater room is kind of cool, but I don't need that. Downsizing will be the order of the day...not to save money, but to be gentler to the environment. Smaller house, electric cars, smaller carbon footprint...those are in The Lovely Mrs. Flagpole's and my future.
Good luck with the sale though.
Racket wrote:
Smart Poster wrote:
Your lame attempt at humor does not negate what I have said.
So is that a "no" on the iambic pentameter?
that made me laugh.
Racket has some acid in him lately eh
win win win no matter what wrote:
L L wrote:
I was told the stock market would crash if Biden was elected.
https://youtu.be/krM_UAoJDQ4?t=6Let’s revisit this in 6 months.
Trump's point, not only in the debate but in several rallies, was that the mere news of Biden winning would send markets crashing.
That clearly did not happen. And 6 months form now is an entirely different thing.
What we will have over the period of time after the inauguration is stability and predictability, which markets like.
We will have to cope with large market segments failing and the chain reaction that will cause. Travel and entertainment will stay down and that will hurt.
A McConnel controlled senate would prevent stimulus relief and it will hurt many low earners.
But Trump was way wrong on the market reaction to a Biden win.