We will get some additional witnesses in September and then it will all be packed up and sent to the DOJ as a criminal referral. A bunch of Trump World folks are going to prison for sure. Trump himself? Not sure. There will be a squeamishness about prosecuting a former President. They may just let him live out his life under virtual house arrest at Mar-a-Lago on the condition that he never utters a public statement ever again. Shutting him off from fame and grifting might be worse for him than a federal super max.
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techno wrote:
Josh Hawley giving raised fist to rioters in support, when he is outside and protected behind security.
Josh Hawley running through the hall of the Capitol Building to flee from rioters.
That part was hilarious. How does he explain that? He can duck the media on it, but he can't duck the watchful eyes of J. Christ of Nazareth no matter how fast he evacuated the premises invaded by the angry throngs.
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As for Trump, I say book him Danno
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Trump never gave up his big lie. But there was no stolen election. Trump lost, then tried to steal the presidency by breaking the process. Lying to his followers. "We love you, you're very special." More like "You're useful to me, and it's really neat how some of you will send me money when I tell you lies."
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carmine9 wrote:
Yep.
NTY admits that the Russian collusion narative was a hoax.
Just like the "1/6 was an insurrection" baloney.
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carmine9 wrote:
The difference here is reputable news sources owning it when they are wrong and not doubling down like a bunch of cowards.
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The polls wrote:
newspaper wrote:
Anyone watch last night? Thoughts? What were some key takeaways?
Joe Biden’s approval rating is 35% in the Quinnipiac poll. That’s the takeaway. No other reason to have these in prime time on major networks other than an attempt to help a floundering president and his party ahead of midterms.
don’t talk about “preserving democracy” blah blah blah.
I asked a group of people who don't approve of Biden to give me ONE reason but the rule is that they can't use the term Executive Order and can't complain about legislation not passing the Senate (simply because no Republican is going to support any of his agenda).
All I got was that he gave that Saudi Prince a fist bump.
He TRIED to impose a capital gains tax to curb inflation (like Regan did) EVERY Republican voted no and Manchin said he would. THEN those same Republicans complained that he was doing nothing to fight inflation.
People blame him for not (what?) going to Russia to help Griner break out of prison?
There are 55 Americans in Russian prisons, she's getting mroe attention than any of them.
Americans are largely very un and misinformed. The fact that enough people voted for W Bush and Trump to have them appointed President is all the proof you need.
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Cue Up Merrick Garland wrote:
We will get some additional witnesses in September and then it will all be packed up and sent to the DOJ as a criminal referral. A bunch of Trump World folks are going to prison for sure. Trump himself? Not sure. There will be a squeamishness about prosecuting a former President. They may just let him live out his life under virtual house arrest at Mar-a-Lago on the condition that he never utters a public statement ever again. Shutting him off from fame and grifting might be worse for him than a federal super max.
Or . . .
he gets away with all of this, wins the 2024 election and puts Trump loyalists in every single federal position he can and completely changes America.
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runn wrote:
The polls wrote:
Joe Biden’s approval rating is 35% in the Quinnipiac poll. That’s the takeaway. No other reason to have these in prime time on major networks other than an attempt to help a floundering president and his party ahead of midterms.
don’t talk about “preserving democracy” blah blah blah.
I asked a group of people who don't approve of Biden to give me ONE reason but the rule is that they can't use the term Executive Order and can't complain about legislation not passing the Senate (simply because no Republican is going to support any of his agenda).
All I got was that he gave that Saudi Prince a fist bump.
He TRIED to impose a capital gains tax to curb inflation (like Regan did) EVERY Republican voted no and Manchin said he would. THEN those same Republicans complained that he was doing nothing to fight inflation.
People blame him for not (what?) going to Russia to help Griner break out of prison?
There are 55 Americans in Russian prisons, she's getting mroe attention than any of them.
Americans are largely very un and misinformed. The fact that enough people voted for W Bush and Trump to have them appointed President is all the proof you need.
In the era of Biden, you point to Bush and Trump?
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Here are just some of the narratives that have been rendered as complete nonsense by the J6 hearings:
* It was just a protest that got a little out of hand
* The insurrectionists were all invited to come in
* Nobody had weapons
* It wasn't really violent
* Nobody planned the attack
* Nobody in Trump's orbit knew the attack was going to happen
* Trump wasn't serious when he said he wanted to march with the rioters
* It was like a tourist trip
* Trump didn't know it was going to happen
* It was Antifa and not Trump supporters
* The election was rigged
* It's OK ignore a subpoena from the committee
* We should just move on
* Nobody cares
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I guess someone was watching these hearings...
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I was very encouraged by the interview Merrick Garland did with Lester Holt.
Garland made it clear that when prosecuting Trump he will not take into account his status as a former president or as a potential presidential candidate.
He said he will pursue justice, "without fear or favor". This is exactly what I was waiting to hear.
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Wow, Garland has been running a very tight ship. Apparently he ran Oklahoma City bombing case, and there were no leaks. Successful prosecution. He is good at locking up domestic terrorists who damage the country.
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"We will hold accountable ANYONE who was criminally responsible for attempting to interfere with the legitimate lawful transfer of power from one administration to the next."
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Let’s put the Don on the stand to defend himself in real time. That would be a real hoot.
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Rick Cheney wrote:
Let’s put the Don on the stand to defend himself in real time. That would be a real hoot.
Trump taking the stand under oath would consist of nothing but one word answers.
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OH...TX wrote:
Rick Cheney wrote:
Let’s put the Don on the stand to defend himself in real time. That would be a real hoot.
Trump taking the stand under oath would consist of nothing but one word answers.
I don't think Trump would be able to keep himself from running his mouth. A good prosecutor should be able to goad him into blabbing.
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techno wrote:
Wow, Garland has been running a very tight ship. Apparently he ran Oklahoma City bombing case, and there were no leaks. Successful prosecution. He is good at locking up domestic terrorists who damage the country.
Successful cover-up.
We are supposed to believe one guy did this.
And when the prosecution got exposed for cheating at trial, the state went ahead and murdered that one guy anyway.
Nothing suspicious there at all.
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techno wrote:
"We will hold accountable ANYONE who was criminally responsible for attempting to interfere with the legitimate lawful transfer of power from one administration to the next."
Does that include the DEm Paty that cheated Bernie?
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