Big Pharma's Secret Agenda Exposed !!!!

Jefe in the CO wrote:

There are many other mitigating reasons for some of the issues we face but the sheer magnitude of our crappy overall health is abominable. I can't understand how some still argue that we've got the "Best health care system in the world."

No amount of healthcare (not even a nationwide McDonaldsectomy) can adequately make up for consistently sh*tty life decisions when it comes to taking responsibility for one's health, dietary intake, and activity level.

So many parts of our culture actively promote sedentary lifestyles, dietary gluttony, and reactionary rather than proactive responses to one's health.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

Jefe in the CO wrote:

- Diabetes, autism and other developmental disorders are skyrocketing.

I'm not defending Big Pharma (there are plenty of things wrong with that industry) but Autism is skyrocketing because it is used as a differetial diagnosis for Intellectual Disabilities (nee' Mental Retardation) and Emotional Disturbance. I'm shocked that this is not commonly known and acknowledged.

Diabetes, autism and other developmental disorders are skyrocketing because they are actually being diagnosed. People used to just lock up people with autism because no one understood what was wrong with them. Understanding diseases is the main reason these have shot up, in the past they just went undiagnosed.

Retardalert. wrote:

Diabetes, autism and other developmental disorders are skyrocketing because they are actually being diagnosed. People used to just lock up people with autism because no one understood what was wrong with them. Understanding diseases is the main reason these have shot up, in the past they just went undiagnosed.

In the past people with Autism were diagnosed with Mental Retardation or Emotional Disturbance. It may well be that better understanding and classification has helped distinguish these conditions from each other. However, Autism is not skyrocketing due to vaccines or some environmental causes. Autism is simply being diagnosed more frequently and Intellectual disabilities and emotional disturbances are being diagnosed less frequently. There are quite a few studies on this phenomenon in the scholarly literature.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

There are quite a few studies on this phenomenon in the scholarly literature.

Sorry, but scholarly literature is not welcome in this discussion. Come back with a bunch of random anonymous internet testimonials and then maybe we'll be able to believe what you say.

Here's one:

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/117/4/1028?ijkey=3cbd691dc25a3b82310b73268486588402454803

There are lots of others.

This thread has gone a little off topic. I'll take that as evidence that no one can refute our claims.

Of course not. Look at the little bubble of ignorance you've wrapped yourself in. Any evidence that disagrees with your preconceived worldview is just part of the bias created by the massive "Big Pharma" conspiracy, and anything that agrees with it you can accept without question. It must be a comfortable way to live, never having to think critically about the things you want to believe. But it makes conversation with you pretty pointless.

So, back to the topic.

For like 50 years natural medicine used low fat vegan diet to cure cancer. Pharma industry called it "scam", while no study was done to check if this dietetic program actually works. It was like "It doesn't work because it was not tested by us". And natural medicine schools were unable to perform studies since either they will not get permission or they aren't wealthy enough.

And guess what? One guy used his own money to check if low fat vegan diet can actually affect cancer, dr Ornish mentioned by me before. Of course, cancer reversed, natural medicine therapy - low fat vegan diet - was much more effective than chemo, surgery and radiotherapy together.

So, what's statement of pharma corporations NOW? "Natural medicine schools and their dietary regiments are scam".

citation needed wrote:

Of course not. Look at the little bubble of ignorance you've wrapped yourself in. Any evidence that disagrees with your preconceived worldview is just part of the bias created by the massive "Big Pharma" conspiracy, and anything that agrees with it you can accept without question. It must be a comfortable way to live, never having to think critically about the things you want to believe. But it makes conversation with you pretty pointless.

Right back at ya, buddy.

On another note, you have resorted to the ultimate wimp-out submission without admission argument: it's not worth arguing. In other words, you have nothing left to say. There are plenty of things for you to refute, but you can't refute any of them so you tell us it's not worth it talking to us. Tell me one thing, if this is true, why didn't you realize this before you ran out of arguments?