For Dems/Libs only. Who would you like to see as your candidate in 2028?

What happens with the next week’s trash?

Sounds like your pretty determined to hate her.

There are plenty of people out there who switch parties with regularity. I can remember tons of Obama voters who voted for Trump, which made little sense to me, but whatever. Same thing this time around. Plenty of people who voted for Biden in 2020 flipped back to Trump.

About 25% of each side is steadfast and not moving. The middle is up for grabs with regularity, but the Dems have to put up a candidate is not female, not gay, not a liberal California guy. That stuff just isn't working.

I'm waiting for this data, captain scientific method. Gavin didn't sell cars, he owned / ran a chain of winerys / restaurants thereof. He was re-elected with 59% of the vote in 2022.

I like how you ignored my other actual facts that present Mayor Pete as a more centrist candidate given his vet and biz mgmt background. And Wes Moore has a vet background as well and worked as an investment bank at Deutsche and maybe has a bit of The Wire in him.

Way too early to pose this question. The party first has to understand why it received such a drubbing. Then it must decide what sort of party it is. Having worked, with growing reluctance, on every campaign since 1976, I can say that the party has become ever more oriented towards educated elites, treating the need to court working class voters as a sort of unpleasant penance. My own view is that Harris ran a defensive, standoffish, cold campaign, and missed many opportunities connect with voters outside the elite bubble. How could the party have made so many unforced errors? Answer these questions and then begin thinking about a field of candidates.

Dem here. Personally I'd like to see a candidate that seeks out the middle ground. Hell, I don't care if they are Republican or Democrat, if they were just moderate I'd vote for them.

Contrary to popular belief, there are a large number of Dems like myself that are exhausted by the dogmatic identity politics of the far left and christo-conservatism of the far right.

We just want affordable healthcare, good public schools, common sense gun laws and freedom to control our own bodies.

That makes sense from a game theory perspective. So then you're down to like Wes Moore and Andy Beshear at this point, 3 years ahead of a real conversation because who knows. The Hick maybe would have been elected in 1860. Senators are rarely elected and it has to be something like Obama coming out of the Chicago machine like a bat out of that Meat Loaf song and giving the 2004 speech. The only mayor that has ever been elected straight out of that office is Grover MF Cleveland. He spanked me on two non-consecutive occasions.

Thank you for the reasonable conversation. :)

The fact that you think I meant Newsom literally sold used cars says everything about your politics... lol.

59% of the vote in California means 30% of the vote in a general election. Normal people do not like sleazy elitist hypocrites like Newsom. He has no chance in the swing states.

I disagree that Pete is a centrist but it's irrelevant. Black men and Latino men will not turn out vote for a gay man. Without black men and latino men turning out the Democrat loses. See Tuesday if this concept still confuses you.

I have no idea who Wes Moore is. The fact that you like Newsom and Wes Moore and think Mayor Pete is a "centrist" strongly suggests that he's no where near the middle either.

Kam ran as a L.A. politician. L.A. is bustling, thriving, the sports, entertainment, techonology, science leader of the World. She didnt realize outside HI, CA, OR, WA, CO, NM the rest of the USA is in shambles. Now she knows. Same here.

Other than good hair he has nothing to offer. He runs the state with the best natural resources in the country yet people and businesses are leaving and the state becomes a bigger s-hole by the day.

Surprised nobody has mentioned him yet, but I think Andrew Yang would have appealed across the board this election with his messaging on AI and economics.

If you have no idea who Wes Moore is, then I would assume you would think Gavin actually sold used cars. I want to subscribe to your newsletter and heck, have you come over and X my sister.* Have you run / sold a company for profit or worked at a top-five management consulting firm? You'll ignore that question in your response.

*Mods that is a softly modified quote from Full Metal Jacket by Stanley Kubrick in 1987 this is a very antagonistic poster making for a degraded experience on LetsRun

This. As a conservative, I won't weigh in on who Dems should choose, but Harris had a clear lead after the DNC convention and proceeded to blow it. I predict that she will disappear politically.

If she runs in the primaries, she won't even get into the double digits in support.

unfortunately i do not think he would have any shot of winning given, ahem, demographics, but would make a great cabinet member / FTC chair / whatever the CTO-ish role is

can we throw you out of this thread if not the forum altogether? i've reported you, you're just being abusive

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I don’t want to go through the entire thread. Has Elizabeth Clor been mentioned? She would be my pick. Of course 2028 is thousands of running outfits away.

I never said I was 100% confident, but I did think she would win. Forgive me for having too much faith in the American electorate.

Ignore him. It's all he does.

He's broken