Ghost of Igloi wrote:
For many of the older professional distance runners it is apparent they need to move on in life. Continuing to hold that same dream for even another year seems pointless to me.
By move on do you mean, move up to the marathon?
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
For many of the older professional distance runners it is apparent they need to move on in life. Continuing to hold that same dream for even another year seems pointless to me.
By move on do you mean, move up to the marathon?
Coach X wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
OK, but at some point you’re just kidding yourself if you’re a 28 year old 7th place Olympic Trials finisher with $500 in savings.
The fastest distance runners peak in their late 20s and early 30s. Why would a runner who is top 7 nationally give it up at 28?
Yeah... tell it to Cory Mcgee and Heather Maclean who both just qualified for the Olympics at 29.
the way it is wrote:
HappyJack wrote:
Maybe someone else can, but I can't find any argument with your post, nor have I anything else to add.
Sometimes what seems to be a good move in the present, is very much regretted ten years down the line. If someone is just getting by and not building for the future, that might be one of those bad decisions. (I rarely agree with the Ghost but he might be right this time.)
True. And sometimes the future you hope for doesn't materialize no matter how carefully you plan it. At other times things take care of themselves. There's an argument to be made for planning for the future and there's an argument to be made for making the most of the present. There are a LOT of people, very few of them serious runners, who are just getting by and not building for the future.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:Hey if someone wants to live their life that way fine.
And yet this thread exists.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:It just seems pointless and rundant to me.
The purpose of life is whatever you want it to be.
A lot of it depends on their networks.
The musician example you cited--guy was probably talented but had no networks.
This is great, but sometimes it comes down to timing, luck and opportunity.
Even if you network the job you want might not come up and you have to move to another city.
My fiancée is a teacher and she just can't get a good teaching job in Columbus despite having a master's degree.
BOHICA wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
So says the obsessed want to be guy.
You mean the one who calls himself another man's name? While touting his alleged credentials anonymously? You're tragically lacking self-awareness, buddy.
Top ten times U.S. marathon 1973-75: 1973 Western Hemisphere 2nd 2:20:08; 1974 Boston 13th 2:19:15; Avenue of the Giants 2nd 2:20:55 (still the 19-24 age group record. All accomplished before super shoes,. And with the exception of a six month period, working full time. Nineteen years college track coach, 17 years as head coach Juco, DII, and DI. Published two articles on middle and long distance running. Still active in the sport coaching, officiating and competing.
Not sure if it has been mentioned, but a lot of the people saying that people can do whatever they want in life are the very same people who are probably left wingers who have no issues with taxing people to finance their alternative lifestyle choices, healthcare, and retirement. A lot of these "pro" runners who hang it up at 35 with no marketable work experience will get jaded very quickly at how normie working stiff hiring managers will turn them away. Give it another 15-20 years and these guys become the bitter, poor Democrat voters we all hear whining about how bad the economy is ever since the '08 recession (just lol).
Come on guys, cut it out with the Peter Pan stuff. Running is fun, but get a job like the rest of us grunts.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
BOHICA wrote:
You mean the one who calls himself another man's name? While touting his alleged credentials anonymously? You're tragically lacking self-awareness, buddy.
Top ten times U.S. marathon 1973-75: 1973 Western Hemisphere 2nd 2:20:08; 1974 Boston 13th 2:19:15; Avenue of the Giants 2nd 2:20:55 (still the 19-24 age group record. All accomplished before super shoes,. And with the exception of a six month period, working full time. Nineteen years college track coach, 17 years as head coach Juco, DII, and DI. Published two articles on middle and long distance running. Still active in the sport coaching, officiating and competing.
Tell us about your last race.
ummmmmm wrote:
Coach X wrote:
The fastest distance runners peak in their late 20s and early 30s. Why would a runner who is top 7 nationally give it up at 28?
Yeah... tell it to Cory Mcgee and Heather Maclean who both just qualified for the Olympics at 29.
For them it worked out, what about the other couple dozen that were on the outside. I don’t think I ever said it was a bad decision to keep running competitively. I do believe it is not an optimal choice for a significant number.
just sayin' lol wrote:
Not sure if it has been mentioned, but a lot of the people saying that people can do whatever they want in life are the very same people who are probably left wingers who have no issues with taxing people to finance their alternative lifestyle choices, healthcare, and retirement. A lot of these "pro" runners who hang it up at 35 with no marketable work experience will get jaded very quickly at how normie working stiff hiring managers will turn them away. Give it another 15-20 years and these guys become the bitter, poor Democrat voters we all hear whining about how bad the economy is ever since the '08 recession (just lol).
Come on guys, cut it out with the Peter Pan stuff. Running is fun, but get a job like the rest of us grunts.
And you know all of this really happens because you can provide numerous examples?
He him wrote:
OP is living proof that the you never have to give up on the dream of trolling people, whether it be this thread or the yearslong one where he maintained that the stock market was about to collapse throughout an historic rise.
Keep calm and post on, and on, and on.
His posts on that other thread have typically generated responses similar to those here. Igy is generally considered to be a buffoon.
CONFORM wrote:
I kNoW... thEY shOuLd moVe oN anD cOntriButE tO thE CapItaLisM maChiNE. CoNfoRM anD ConsUmE likE EvEryOnE elSe.
Lol. Avoid letting your soul die as long as possible.
Gruntz wrote:
He him wrote:
OP is living proof that the you never have to give up on the dream of trolling people, whether it be this thread or the yearslong one where he maintained that the stock market was about to collapse throughout an historic rise.
Keep calm and post on, and on, and on.
His posts on that other thread have typically generated responses similar to those here. Igy is generally considered to be a buffoon.
The obsessed Troll speaks with forked tongue.
just sayin' lol wrote:
Not sure if it has been mentioned, but a lot of the people saying that people can do whatever they want in life are the very same people who are probably left wingers who have no issues with taxing people to finance their alternative lifestyle choices, healthcare, and retirement. A lot of these "pro" runners who hang it up at 35 with no marketable work experience will get jaded very quickly at how normie working stiff hiring managers will turn them away. Give it another 15-20 years and these guys become the bitter, poor Democrat voters we all hear whining about how bad the economy is ever since the '08 recession (just lol).
Come on guys, cut it out with the Peter Pan stuff. Running is fun, but get a job like the rest of us grunts.
When employment finally becomes a serious objective, many will hold a sign for some two bit politician at election time in the hope of getting a government job. You local Parks & Rec department is filled with them.
recognizer of idiots wrote:
And of course running is just one part if life. Everyone knows that.
No! You're wrong! I refuse to accept it!
My sponsor is an office that I eat, nap, and surf the web from 9am to 12pm and then 1pm to 5pm between workouts. My real life takes place in the 90 minute run before 9 am, the recovery run at noon, and the weight lifting, cryotherapies, and massages after 5!
Training segment after training segment, posting on Strava, and traveling to destination towns and countries strategically chosen so that I have a chance of winning first overall and creating new segments are all life is about!
:p
I agree. Some athletes probably just stick around for the money but most are super competetive people who just don't want to keep doing what they love. I respect that
And less importantly, as a 32 year old it's definitely encouraging to see older guys still throwing it down in the big leagues lol
I think you pretty much know whether you have the goods or not in this sport by your early 20s at the latest. Whether you choose to keep chasing it or not though is totally up to the individual and what they want out of life. Not everyone wants financial stability and a family. To each his own and kudos to the athlete who stays the course and sees it through.
couldn't continue waiting at least 5 minutes wrote:
Good lord.
Why would (does) anyone think they should (can) comment on how someone else wants to live their life (given they are not hurting anyone else)? ... judge what their priorities should be?
Are you so wise that you know what the real meaning of life is?
Can you predict the future?
(This place amazes me on a daily basis... I'm off to Kona.)
OP is insecure about the choice he made.
So he is looking for validation by questioning the choices of other people who have done the opposite .
DanM wrote:
just sayin' lol wrote:
Not sure if it has been mentioned, but a lot of the people saying that people can do whatever they want in life are the very same people who are probably left wingers who have no issues with taxing people to finance their alternative lifestyle choices, healthcare, and retirement. A lot of these "pro" runners who hang it up at 35 with no marketable work experience will get jaded very quickly at how normie working stiff hiring managers will turn them away. Give it another 15-20 years and these guys become the bitter, poor Democrat voters we all hear whining about how bad the economy is ever since the '08 recession (just lol).
Come on guys, cut it out with the Peter Pan stuff. Running is fun, but get a job like the rest of us grunts.
When employment finally becomes a serious objective, many will hold a sign for some two bit politician at election time in the hope of getting a government job. You local Parks & Rec department is filled with them.
See Jim Ryun